5700 vs 2070 super: AMD RX 5700 vs Nvidia RTX 2070S (Super)

RX 5700 vs RTX Super

So yesterday we published our NVIDIA RTX Super review, and if you’re interested in learning more you can check it out right here. But in it we actually had a difficult time coming up with a conclusion because we didn’t know how well the AMD RX 5700 series would compete against NVIDIA’s new GPUs. However, with all of yesterday’s benchmarks done, could we accurately predict where the RX 5700 XT and RX 5700 would land in comparison to the RTX 2070 Super any RTX 2060 Super. Did NVIDIA get their older GPUs out of trouble just in time or does AMD now have a serious problem? Well it turns out that AMD did publish some pretty specific performance numbers at E3 and that might lead to some interesting comparison.

All right so I’m going to start things off by making something very, very clear. You should not take this as a scientifically accurate article and you should definitely not use this to make any purchasing decisions. In fact, this whole article started as a fun little test to see how accurate AMD’s E3 presentation was. But now with the new RTX Super cards around we might be able to use AMD’s own numbers to estimate how well the RX 5700 series will compete when they finally launch next week. So let’s start with what AMD showed.

It was the top chart for the RX 5700 which showed a 2% to 21% advantage over the RTX 2060 Founders Edition. While bottom chart had everything from a 3% loss to a 22% gain when the RX 5700 XT was compared against the RTX 2070 Founders Edition. Those are pretty impressive numbers. I want to pause here for a bit because I realized that these 10 games are the ones that we use in our own benchmarking process, while Far Cry New Dawn has nearly identical performance results as Far Cry 5 since it uses the same game engine. Now that got Mike and I thinking about how the results would line up against the benchmarks we used in the RTX Super Series article from yesterday. So basically we used those percentages and extrapolated from our results. Great in theory right? Well you guys can hate on this as much as you want, but it will be really cool to see how the numbers line up when we’ve posted our full review of the RX 5700 series. So before we get into what we came up with, let me explain to you why this is a quick and fun little comparison that we wanted to try rather than being super serious.

First of all, according to AMD’s testing notes, they used a stock Core i9-9900K and we used an overclocked Core i9-9900X to eliminate any CPU bottlenecks, but luckily these games aren’t CPU limited at 1440P resolution. We also have no idea which scenes AMD chose to benchmark with, yet improvements are usually seen across the entire game and not just a single scene. However, AMD’s chart says that they used the best performing API for both GPUs and to us that means each game comparison could have been mixed DX9/DX11 or DX12 results, which is super odd and a bit misleading. Finally, we decided to include the RTX 2070 Founders Edition but not the RTX 2060 Founders Edition, and that’s because the RTX 2060 Founders Edition isn’t pre-overclocked so I just used a stock RTX 2060 in its place. Plus we know how AMD used Founders Edition GPUs since they mentioned it in a PCWorld livestream last week.

 

 

But let’s get into what we found starting with Assassin Creed. The Supers actually do improve quite a bit, and adding the 2% improvements for the RX 5700 and the RX 5700 XT doesn’t really change things by all that much. Then again, moving to Battlefield V tells a whole different story and there seems to be some pretty good improvements with the Super cards. Adding the RX 5700 series, AMD is claiming 22% and 21% improvements for the XT and the non-XT cards over the RTX Founders Editions, and that’s huge, especially since these two cards costs less than NVIDIA’s Super series. On the surface of things the Supers do well in Far Cry 5, but add the 5% and 12% stated by AMD’s presentation and they’re still trailing the RTX 2070 and RTX 2060 Super, but really not buy all that much. This is likely why NVIDIA priced their GPUs so close.

 

 

Metro Exodus is a pretty interesting title too, since it is an NVIDIA friendly title, but AMD claims between 15% to 16% improvements over the original RTX 2070 and RTX 2060 and that seems really impressive. Shadow of the Tomb Raider is also worth focusing on since AMD was pretty open about showing the RX 5700 XT losing by 3% and the RX 5700 winning by 6%. Pop figures into our chart and this is what you get. I won’t make any conclusions, but like I said, it’s nice to see a company admitting where some of the improvements are needed. Finally, there’s Witcher 3, which hasn’t been a really kind title for AMD since it was released. However, it’s still an awesome game, and once again the AMD cards slide right in between the Super series. However, imagine if those cards weren’t launched, NVIDIA could have been in some trouble.

So looking at the results, they should give you at least a vague idea about how AMD claims that the RX 5700 series GPUs will stack up against the RTX Super cards. Now, as I mentioned at the very beginning of this article, please do take these unscientific results with a grain of salt, and I’m completely aware that we’ll get hate from both sides. But heck, I think that this was a pretty cool comparison either way. Now, what I’m really looking forward to seeing is how these numbers turn out in reality when the RX 5700 XT and the RX 5700 reviews get published next week. Super stoked for that, but based on all of this, it’s possible that NVIDIA may have been a bit too conservative with the Super series pricing. Maybe all they did was to avoid the RX 5700 series rather than competing with it, but that could also mean that AMD is in a pretty good position.

Personally, I think the most important aspect is the Radeon lineup has finally been able to achieve good results against the RTX series at similar power consumption numbers. Remember the RX 5700 XT has a board power of 225 watts and the RX 5700 needs 185 watts. However, NVIDIA needed to really push their 12nm process here with the RTX 2070 Super at 215 watts and the RTX 2060 Super at 175 watts. So should AMD be worried? Well if we use their benchmark numbers, absolutely not. But we’re just gonna have to wait and hold our breath for just a bit longer so that we can paint the whole picture as to what both teams are offering, especially for the price points. And we’ll have scientific results to prove that.

GeForce RTX 2070 Super Beats Radeon RX 5700 XT In FFXV Leak

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The unreleased Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 Super, AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700 graphics cards have all entered the Final Fantasy XV benchmark database. The results reportedly show the GeForce RTX 2070 Super on top.

The GeForce RTX 20-series Super graphics card are the alleged refreshed versions of Nvidia’s normal counterparts to face AMD’s Navi offerings. For the GeForce RTX 2070 Super, in particular, Nvidia seemingly swapped the Turing TU106 die, which was used in the original RTX 2070, to the larger TU104 die that’s found inside the RTX 2080. This little silicon swap has allowed Nvidia to offer higher performance on the RTX 2070 Super.

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Row 0 — Cell 0 RTX 2070 Super RTX 2070 Radeon RX 5700 XT Radeon RX 5700
Architecture (GPU) Turing (TU104) Turing (TU106) RDNA (Navi 10) RDNA (Navi 10)
Shading Units 2560 2304 2560 2304
FP32 Performance ? 7. 9 TFLOPS 9.75 TFLOPS 7.95 TFLOPS
Tensor Cores 320 288
RT Cores 40 36
Texture Units 160 144 160 144
Base Clock Rate ? 1410 MHz 1,605 MHz 1,465 MHz
Game Clock Rate 1,755 MHz 1,625 MHz
GPU Boost Rate ? 1620 MHz 1,905 MHz 1,725 MHz
Memory Capacity 8GB GDDR6 8GB GDDR6 8GB GDDR6 8GB GDDR6
Memory Clock 14 Gbps 14 Gbps 14 Gbps 14 Gbps
Memory Bus 256-bit 256-bit 256-bit 256-bit
Memory Bandwidth 448 GB/s 448 GB/s 448 GB/s 448 GB/s
ROPs 64 64 64 64
L2 Cache 4MB 4MB 4MB 4MB
TBP 175W 175W 225W 180W
Transistor Count 13. 6 billion 10.8 billion 10.3 billion 10.3 billion
Die Size 545 mm² 445 mm² 251 mm² 251 mm²
Pricing ? $499 $449 $379

*Data in chart not confirmed

The GeForce RTX 2070 Super purportedly employs 40 Streaming Multiprocessors (SMs), which, consequently means it will arrive with 2,560 CUDA cores, 320 Tensor cores, 40 RT cores, and 160 texture mapping units (TMUs). If we compare the RTX 2070 Super to the RTX 2070, we’re looking at an 11.11% increase in CUDA cores. Nvidia didn’t make any changes to memory speeds or configuration.

The Final Fantasy XV benchmark results correspond to the 2560×1440 resolution with the High-Quality graphic present. It should be taken into consideration that test systems’ specifications and testing environment are unknown to us. Additionally, Nvidia was part of Final Fantasy XV’s development, so the title favors the Green team. With everything considered, take the numbers with a bit of salt.

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The RTX 2070 Super performs 13.51% faster than the RTX 2070. It falls just 3.72% short of catching up to last generation’s flagship, the GTX 1080 Ti. In comparison to its AMD rivals, the RTX 2070 Super is 38.48% faster than the Radeon RX 5700 XT. The Final Fantasy XV benchmark is often criticized for its accuracy, and with good reason. Apparently, the Radeon VII is even slower than the Radeon RX 5700. Our own review has shown that the Radeon VII’s performance is closer to the RTX 2080 so there’s no way it’ll fall behind an RX 5700 especially when AMD has stated that the RX 5700’s rival is the RTX 2060.

Once again, you shouldn’t judge a book by the first page. Wait for complete reviews of the Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 Super, AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700 before picking them of them up.

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Zhiye Liu is a Freelance News Writer at Tom’s Hardware US. Although he loves everything that’s hardware, he has a soft spot for CPUs, GPUs, and RAM.

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  • 5nm smaller semiconductors?
    7nm vs 12nm
  • 1 newer PCI Express (PCIe) version?
    4 vs 3
  • 1 more DisplayPort outputs?
    3 vs 2
  • Why is Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 Super better than Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700?

    • GPU frequency 140MHz higher?
      1605MHz vs 1465MHz
    • 1.11 TFLOPS higher than FLOPS?
      9.06 TFLOPS vs 7.95 TFLOPS
    • 34.8 GTexels/s higher number of textured pixels?
      283. 2 GTexels/s vs 248.4 GTexels/s
    • Supports ray tracing?
    • 256 more stream processors?
      2560 vs 2304
    • 3300million more transistors?
      13600 million vs 10300 million
    • 10°C lower GPU temperature during boot?
      74°C vs 84°C
    • 16 more texture units (TMUs)?
      160 vs 144

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    The graphics processing unit (GPU) has a higher clock speed.

    turbo GPU

    1725MHz

    1770MHz

    When the GPU is running below its limits, it can jump to a higher clock speed to increase performance.

    pixel rate

    110.4 GPixel/s

    113.3 GPixel/s

    The number of pixels that can be displayed on the screen every second.

    FLOPS

    7. 95 TFLOPS

    9.06 TFLOPS

    FLOPS is a measure of GPU processing power.

    texture size

    248.4 GTexels/s

    283.2 GTexels/s

    Number of textured pixels that can be displayed on the screen every second.

    GPU memory speed

    1750MHz

    1750MHz

    Memory speed is one aspect that determines memory bandwidth.

    Shading patterns

    Shading units (or stream processors) are small processors in a graphics card that are responsible for processing various aspects of an image.

    texture units (TMUs)

    TMUs take texture units and map them to the geometric layout of the 3D scene. More TMUs generally means texture information is processed faster.

    ROPs

    ROPs are responsible for some of the final steps of the rendering process, such as writing the final pixel data to memory and for performing other tasks such as anti-aliasing to improve the appearance of graphics.

    Memory

    effective memory speed

    14000MHz

    14000MHz

    The effective memory clock is calculated from the size and data transfer rate of the memory. A higher clock speed can give better performance in games and other applications.

    maximum memory bandwidth

    448GB/s

    448GB/s

    This is the maximum rate at which data can be read from or stored in memory.

    VRAM (video RAM) is the dedicated memory of the graphics card. More VRAM usually allows you to run games at higher settings, especially for things like texture resolution.

    versions of GDDR memory

    Later versions of GDDR memory offer improvements such as higher data transfer rates, which improves performance.

    memory bus width

    256bit

    256bit

    A wider memory bus means it can carry more data per cycle. This is an important factor in memory performance, and therefore the overall performance of the graphics card.

    Supports memory troubleshooting code

    ✖Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700

    ✖Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 Super

    Memory troubleshooting code can detect and repair data corruption. It is used when necessary to avoid distortion, such as in scientific computing or when starting a server.

    Features

    DirectX version

    DirectX is used in games with a new version that supports better graphics.

    OpenGL version

    The newer the OpenGL version, the better graphics quality in games.

    version of OpenCL

    Some applications use OpenCL to use the power of the graphics processing unit (GPU) for non-graphical computing. Newer versions are more functional and better quality.

    Supports multi-monitor technology

    ✔Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700

    ✔Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 Super

    The video card has the ability to connect multiple screens. This allows you to set up multiple monitors at the same time to create a more immersive gaming experience, such as a wider field of view.

    GPU temperature at boot

    Lower boot temperature — this means that the card generates less heat and the cooling system works better.

    supports ray tracing

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    Ray tracing is an advanced light rendering technique that provides more realistic lighting, shadows and reflections in games.

    Supports 3D

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    Allows you to view in 3D (if you have a 3D screen and glasses).

    supports DLSS

    ✖Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700

    ✔Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 Super

    DLSS (Deep Learning Super Sampling) is an AI based scaling technology. This allows the graphics card to render games at lower resolutions and upscale them to higher resolutions with near-native visual quality and improved performance. DLSS is only available in some games.

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    This test measures the graphics performance of a graphics card. Source: Pass Mark.

    Ports

    has HDMI out

    ✔Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700

    ✔Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 Super

    Devices with HDMI or mini HDMI ports can stream HD video and audio to an attached display.

    HDMI connectors

    More HDMI connectors allow you to connect multiple devices at the same time, such as game consoles and TVs.

    HDMI version

    HDMI 2.0

    HDMI 2.0

    Newer HDMI versions support higher bandwidth, resulting in higher resolutions and frame rates.

    DisplayPort outputs

    Allows connection to a display using DisplayPort.

    DVI outputs

    Allows connection to a display using DVI.

    mini DisplayPort outputs

    Allows connection to a display using mini DisplayPort.

    Price comparison

    Which graphics cards are better?

    Compare NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super Mobile and AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT

    Comparative analysis of NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super Mobile and AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT video cards by all known characteristics in the categories: General information, Specifications, Video outputs and ports, Compatibility, dimensions, requirements, API support, Memory, Technology support.
    Video card performance analysis by benchmarks: 3DMark Fire Strike — Graphics Score, PassMark — G3D Mark, PassMark — G2D Mark, Geekbench — OpenCL, CompuBench 1.5 Desktop — Face Detection (mPixels/s), CompuBench 1.5 Desktop — Ocean Surface Simulation (Frames/s) ), CompuBench 1.5 Desktop — T-Rex (Frames/s), CompuBench 1. 5 Desktop — Video Composition (Frames/s), CompuBench 1.5 Desktop — Bitcoin Mining (mHash/s), GFXBench 4.0 — Car Chase Offscreen (Frames), GFXBench 4.0 — Manhattan (Frames), GFXBench 4.0 — T-Rex (Frames), GFXBench 4.0 — Car Chase Offscreen (Fps), GFXBench 4.0 — Manhattan (Fps), GFXBench 4.0 — T-Rex (Fps).

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    Benefits

    Why choose NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super Mobile

    • 220.8 GTexel/s vs 304.8 GT/s
    • Approximately 96% less power consumption: 115 Watt vs 225 Watt
    Issue date 2 Apr 2020 vs 7 July 2019
    Texturing Speed ​​ 220.8 GTexel/s vs 304.8 GT/s
    Power consumption (TDP) 115 Watt vs 225 Watt

    Reasons to choose AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT

    • About 41% faster core clock: 1605 MHz vs 1140 MHz
    • 38% faster Boost core clock: 1905 MHz vs 1380 MHz
    • 3DMark Strike — Graphics Fire Score benchmark performance about 15% faster: 9597 vs 8374
    Core clock 1605 MHz vs 1140 MHz
    Boost core clock 1905 MHz vs 1380 MHz
    3DMark Fire Strike — Graphics Score 9597 vs 8374

    Benchmark comparison

    GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super Mobile
    GPU 2: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT

    3DMark Fire Strike — Graphics Score
    GPU 1
    GPU 2
    Name NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super Mobile AMD Radeon RX 5700XT
    3DMark Fire Strike — Graphics Score 8374 9597
    PassMark — G3D Mark 16954
    PassMark — G2D Mark 946
    Geekbench — OpenCL 77650
    CompuBench 1. 5 Desktop — Face Detection (mPixels/s) 252.601
    CompuBench 1.5 Desktop — Ocean Surface Simulation (Frames/s) 3949.565
    CompuBench 1.5 Desktop — T-Rex (Frames/s) 24.769
    CompuBench 1.5 Desktop — Video Composition (Frames/s) 254.777
    CompuBench 1.5 Desktop — Bitcoin Mining (mHash/s) 1322.129
    GFXBench 4.0 — Car Chase Offscreen (Frames) 14699
    GFXBench 4. 0 — Manhattan (Frames) 3720
    GFXBench 4.0 — T-Rex (Frames) 3369
    GFXBench 4.0 — Car Chase Offscreen (Fps) 14699
    GFXBench 4.0 — Manhattan (Fps) 3720
    GFXBench 4.0 — T-Rex (Fps) 3369

    Feature comparison

    conveyors

    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super Mobile AMD Radeon RX 5700XT
    Architecture Turing RDNA
    Codename TU104 Navi 10
    Issue date 2 Apr 2020 July 7, 2019
    Place in the rating 188 97
    Type Laptop Desktop
    Price at first issue date $400
    Boost core clock 1380MHz 1905 MHz
    Core frequency 1140MHz 1605MHz
    Process 12nm
    Peak Double Precision (FP64) Performance 220. 8GFLOPS (1:32)
    Peak Half Precision (FP16) Performance 14.13 TFLOPS (2:1) 19.51 TFLOPs
    Peak Single Precision (FP32) Performance 7.066 TFLOPS 9.75 TFLOPs
    Number of shaders 2560
    Pixel fill rate 88.32GPixel/s 121.9GP/s
    Texturing Speed ​​ 220.8 GTexel/s 304.8 GT/s
    Power consumption (TDP) 115 Watt 225 Watt
    Number of transistors 13600 million 10. 3B
    Number of Compute 40
    Render output units 64
    Stream Processors 2560
    Texture Units 160
    Video connectors No outputs
    DisplayPort support
    HDMI
    Interface PCIe 3. 0 x16
    Additional power connectors None 1 x 8-pin and 1 x 6 pin
    Width IGP
    Recommended power supply 600 Watt
    DirectX 12.2 12
    OpenCL 1.2
    OpenGL 4.6
    Shader Model 6.5
    Vulcan
    Maximum memory size 8GB 8GB
    Memory bandwidth 448 GB/s 448 GB/s
    Memory bus width 256bit 256bit
    Memory frequency 1750 MHz (14000 MHz effective)
    Memory type GDDR6 GDDR6
    4K h364 Decode
    4K h364 Encode
    DisplayPort 1.

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