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Another Renaming Exercise?
It is often said by esteemed football managers that the game is won in the midfield, which is why you often see teams playing with a packed midfield. These rules apply to graphics cards as well. It’s good to have the fastest card and all, but those are not the cards that sell in large quantities. How many of us can afford (and are insane enough) to put down nearly a grand’s worth on a graphics card? Really, the battle is won in the mainstream market, because those are the cards that people actually buy.
Therefore, to beef up its mainstream offerings, NVIDIA has introduced the GeForce 9600 GSO. No, actually «reintroduce» would be more apt, because the GeForce 9600 GSO is, once again, the result of another one of NVIDIA’s rehashing projects. Truth is, the «new» GeForce 9600 GSO is actually an 8800 GS, which itself is a stripped down version of the 8800 GT, which in turn has also been rebadged as the new 9800 GT.
Confused yet? Anyhow, this brings NVIDIA’s mid-range GPU count to four — the GeForce 9500 GT, 9600 GSO, 9600 GT and 9800 GT. Something for everybody, or a case of senseless product cannibalism? Well, we’ll soon find out with today’s test subject — the XFX GeForce 9600 GSO XXX Edition.
In case you are not familiar with the 9600 GSO, and not many are, considering the short lifespan of the 8800 GS, let’s us now talk you through this reintroduced GPU. Positioned as a counter to ATI’s Radeon HD 4670, it has, at its heart, the same G92 core found on a GeForce 8800 GT and 9800 GT, only that it is rather terribly stripped down. For starters, instead of 112 stream processors, it gets only 96. And in terms of memory bandwidth, it has a 192-bit memory bus as compared to the GeForce 8800 GT’s 256.
Clock speeds have not been spared either, as the 9600 GSO is clocked at only 550MHz for the core, 1600MHz for the memory and 1375MHz for the shaders, compared to the GeForce 8800 GT’s 600MHz/1800MHz/1500MHz. With that said, let’s us look at how it compares with the competition.
| Model | NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GS0 384MB | ATI Radeon HD 4670 512MB | NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT 512MB | NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT 256/512MB | ATI Radeon HD 3850 256MB |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Core Code | G92 | RV730 | G94 | G96 | RV670 |
| Transistor Count | 754 million | 514 million | 505 million | 314 million | 666 million |
| Manufacturing Process (in nm) | 65 | 55 | 65/55 | 65/55 | 55 |
| Core Clock | 550MHz | 750MHz | 650MHz | 550MHz | 670MHz |
| Stream Processors | 96 Stream Processors | 64 Shader processors consisting of 320 Stream Processing units | 64 Stream Processors | 32 Stream Processors | 64 Shader processors consisting of 320 Stream Processing units |
| Stream Processor Clock | 1375MHz | 750MHz | 1625MHz | 1400MHz | 670MHz |
| Texture Mapping Units (TMU) or Texture Filtering (TF) units | 48 | 16 | 32 | 16 | 16 |
| Raster Operator units (ROP) | 12 | 8 | 16 | 8 | 16 |
| Memory Clock | 1600MHz GDDR3 | 2000MHz GDDR3/DDR3 | 1800MHz GDDR3 | 1600MHz GDDR3 or 1000MHz GDDR2 | 1660MHz GDDR3 |
| DDR Memory Bus | 192-bit | 128-bit | 256-bit | 128-bit | 256-bit |
| Memory Bandwidth | 38. 4GB/s |
32.0GB/s | 57.6GB/s | 25.6GB/s (GDDR3) 16.0GB/s (GDDR2) | 53.1GB/s |
| PCI Express Interface | PCIe ver 2.0 x16 | PCIe ver 2.0 x16 | PCIe ver 2.0 x16 | PCIe ver 2.0 x16 | PCIe ver 2.0 x16 |
| Molex Power Connectors | Yes | No | Yes | No | Yes |
| Multi GPU Technology | Yes (SLI) | Yes (CrossFireX) | Yes (SLI) | Yes (SLI) | Yes (CrossFire) |
| DVI Output Support | 2 x Dual-Link | 2 x Dual-Link | 2 x Dual-Link | 2 x Dual-Link | 2 x Dual-Link |
| HDCP Output Support | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| Street Price | ~US$100 | US$79 | ~US$110 — 130 | ~US$70 — 89 | ~US$100 — 130 |
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ASUS GeForce 9600 GSO? — Off-topic Chat
_shADoW
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#1
Can anyone vouch for this card? Currently, I’m going to buy one in my new system after Christmas, but before I do I want to know how it does in Blender, ZBrush, Photoshop, Sony Vegas, etc.
If you have any experience or can redirect me to some good reviews, I’d appreciate it a lot!
P.S. I know this card has to be at least ok because it can run Crysis on Very High Settings.
Tynach
(Tynach)
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Eh, its just ASUS’s version of the nVidia GeForce 9600.
Should run Blender just fine. I’ve had good experience with ASUS products (I use one of their motherboards), and I assume their graphics card will be just as good f quality.
_shADoW
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#3
Well, then I guess the question is: Is 9600 GSO chip any good? But I’m sure it is…
Also, note two things: The GSO is factory overclocked, not the same as a 9600.
Also, This is the exact same card as the 8800 GS, renamed, so how are those?
FrozenPaw
(FrozenPaw)
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Tynach:
Eh, its just ASUS’s version of the nVidia GeForce 9600.
Should run Blender just fine. I’ve had good experience with ASUS products (I use one of their motherboards), and I assume their graphics card will be just as good f quality.
I have a 17″ Asus laptop, while I know their lappys are wonderful, I can not say much about their video cards… but from what I have heard–and seen on NewEgg–eVGA is the brand you should look towards when it comes to video cards.
Surt
(Surt)
#5
I’ve got an MSI 9600GSO pre-overclocked double-memory card.
It pushes blender flawlessly (more than I can say about my ATI IGP).
The only recent game I’ve used it with so far is UT3 which runs great at 1680×1050 and never noticed any frame-rate problems.
Tynach:
Eh, its just ASUS’s version of the nVidia GeForce 9600.
There is no 9600. There is a 9600GT which is quite different hardware: g94 chip versus the g92 in the 9600GSO. They are however comparable performance-wise.
_shADoW
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#6
Surt: That’s great news! Also, have you used it in any GameBlender stuff? Can you give me any kind of benchmarks you may have?
Surt
(Surt)
#7
Here’s the apricot bench if it’s any help:
Blender: Built on 2008-07-17 00:41:54, Rev-15608 Version linux2 dynamic Platform: linux2 GPU: NVIDIA Corporation, GeForce 9600 GSO/PCI/SSE2 Driver: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 173.14.09 Window: 1681 x 997 pixels Multisample: 0 buffers, 0 samples 223.194825 FPS (glsl) 200.398262 FPS (glsl, lights) 198.385089 FPS (glsl, lights, extra_textures) 196.081971 FPS (glsl, lights, shaders, extra_textures) 193.853771 FPS (glsl, lights, ramps, shaders, extra_textures) 152.454792 FPS (glsl, lights, shadows) 148.315540 FPS (glsl, lights, shaders, shadows, ramps, extra_textures)
_shADoW
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#8
HO
LY
CRAP.
O.O
That’s a lot of FPS.
I’M SO EXCITED!!!
I can’t imagine when I SLI a couple of these suckers together!!!
arexma
(arexma)
#9
Just for the record, why are you asking what we think about the card on the 04th of august when your blog tells us that you already got the card on the 14th june?
And a card being able to run Crysis on very high is no indicator how good a card is for working, there are different focuses.
The best cards for 3DCG/CAD are still the Quadro IMO. But they are pricy
The Quadro FX flagship ATM:
Click for wet eyes
IMO the 9600 is a midrange card. And i would not run it with a SLI. Its a waste of money for the performance boost you get.
_shADoW
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#10
Yeah, I guess I didn’t describe that very well on my blog… I meant I’ve changed which one I’m going to buy…oh well.
Also, I’m going to be doing some gaming on this pc, but I would KILL to have a quadro.
Thanks for the tip. What about SLI 8800s? I might do that later on.
arexma
(arexma)
#11
I run 8800GTS on SLI.
I am satisfied. Blender runs smoothly up to ~300k shaded polygons, and i havent found a game yet i can´t play on very high in 1280×1024 but i run 1600×1200 mostly or 1680×1050 when i use the other display but also in 16:10 no probs.
Some time ago i got a 6800GT. All the GT and GTX and ULTRA of the 68xx series can be modded to a quadro via rivatuner´s nvstrap driver hook. or simply flash a new vga bios. performance is almost similar to a quadro 45fx if i remember right. you just miss the high resolutions and the display outputs a quadro has. and the larger vram.
a 6800 should be ~50 bucks on ebay.
_shADoW
(.:|shADoW|:.)
#12
So…a 6800 can overclock to the speed of a Quadro??
wolfmanyoda
(wolfmanyoda)
#13
I just bought an eVGA 9600GT and Blender runs very well on it.
I haven’t had the time to really put it throught it’s paces yet but a couple of old .blends that really bogged down before now run great.
I could have gotten the MSI card cheaper but eVGA has great support.
_shADoW
(.:|shADoW|:.)
#14
yeah, but the 9600GT is different than the GSO. The GSO is factory overclocked and more powerful, which I guess is a good thing. I may opt for the EVGA, depending on how much I get for christmas and birthday…
eVGA GeForce 9600 GSO Problem
miska_man
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Ok, I got a new graphics card today.
It’s a EVGA GeForce 9600 GSO. So I grounded my self, unplugged everything, the usual stuff. Installed my card, made sure it was all the way seated, but didn’t plug in the power supply because I need an adaptor. So Question 1. is the power just for the fan ON the card, or for the fan AND the card?
I turned back on my computer and it put out this loud constant beeping sound and nothing showed up on the screen. In the manual for the GeForce under Quick Fixes it says:
«Problem: At boot-up, all you hear is a series of beeps from the computer but see no screen at all.
Cause: The beep sounds are warning sound from the motherboard BIOS that says that it cannon initialize the video card. This can mean on of three things:
1. The card is not seated correctly. Well I made sure it was seated
2. There is a problem with the motherboard’s video card slot. It’s a brand new computer, I don’t think the motherboard is crap already.
3.
There is a problem with the video card. Well its a brand new card too, so I don’t think it’s that either.
Solution: Remove the card from the computer and reinsert it, making sure that the card is seated properly in the slot. Then try to boot the computer again. If this does tnot work, then the problem is either with the motherboard or the video card and you should contact your hardware manufacturer.
So Question 2 arises: What could the problem be?
Also Question 3: Where can I get an adaptor to adapt my 6 pin power on my card to my SATA power supply cables?
I would post a link, but it says I need 5 posts..
Whiffen
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It needs that power connection, usually there is a cable that comes with that card that you can attach one end (2x 4 pins) to the PSU and the other 6-pin to the graphic card.
It might just need that power.
If it still doesn’t work, even if you think it is seated perfect take it out and put it back in.
You know it seems unlikely but I just bought a 9600 GT yesterday and put it in. I had the exact same problem. Power was connected, it was in just fine and yet no signal.
I took it out and made sure there was no dust and that it was in there correctly when I put it back in and It is working fine for me now.
nickc
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miska_man, it is the power connector. it has has to be connected for the computer to work.
I did the same thing one time with a computer that did not have a board speaker and all I got was a very loud screech out of the computer. I took the side off and check and all I had to do was plug in the video card and the computer booted.
miska_man
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Ok, thanks for your help. The only reason I didn’t plug in the card was because I have a PSU with basically all SATA connectors and this of course is a 6 pin. So I just ordered an adaptor and it should be here in a couple days. I might give you an update then.
sasorru
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I have an another problem with my Leadtek 9600 GSO.
I have installed my video card correctly in the pciexp slot, i have installed windows XP, and after i install my video card drivers, when i’m playing a game, after a few minutes my PC is freezing down. On my monitor the everithig stopps, and i can do nothing, just restarting my PC. And this thing doesnt happens only in games, it happens during navigation on net.
What could be the problem with my card? I haveformatted my PC, and after installing the VC driver, everything is the same, my PC is freezing down during gameplaying.
Whiffen
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Needs moa power? What is your PSU?
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