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Please remember to UPDATE YOUR BIOS to the latest version provided by the motherboard manufacturer before installing your new Vishera CPU!
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ATTENTION
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When you’re looking to post information on your CPU, please try to include the following:
— Motherboard brand, model, BIOS Version and Revision #
— Multiplier, Bus Speed, Northbridge Clock, HyperTransport Clock
— VCore, CPU/NB Vcore, LLC (if applicable)
— Memory speed, timings, and voltage.
— Cooling Solution
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Overclocked Owners List
The Submission Form Can Be Found HEREIn order to keep the chart free of unnecessary information, please make sure your CPU is stable before submitting information.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AvsxWM_f24kDdEQ4eGhrdzV2aU94QVBZV2R6LXdIY3c&output=html
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Overclocking Information
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General Information:
— 70C is the maximum recommended temp for the CPU Core temp reading.
— 1.55v is the maximum recommended voltage.
— Stock HyperTransport speed is 2600Mhz.
— Stock NorthBridge speed is 2200Mhz.
Overclocking Guides: If you have one, PM it to me, even (especially) if the guide is for a specific motherboard.
— ComputerRestore’s Guide can be found
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Where To Buy
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If you know of more places to buy them, PM me links and where it’s from.
8350:
Frys
Microcenter
Newegg
NCIX
8320:
Frys
Microcenter
Newegg
NCIX
8350:
Newegg
NCIX
MemoryExpress
8320:
Newegg
NCIX
MemoryExpress
8350:
Scan
CCLOnline
OverclockersUK
8320:
Scan
CCLOnline
OverclockersUK
8350:
Flipkart
PrimeABGB
8320:
Flipkart
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Additional software
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IBT AVX
Windows 7 Hotfixes
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CONTESTS WINNERS
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RAMDisk Speed Contest:
— Current Winner: FlailScHLAMP
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You might try tweaking voltages in the bios. What you are describing sounds like excessive vdroop.
I dont care what the opinion is, Ive worked with a few of the boards (2013 models) and they are a major PITA compared to any other AM3+ board.
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eh… no…
you go to that kind of hassle you might as well do it will actually good parts, rather than the cheap junk you get with AIO water coolers.
do it right and do it once.. use the proper parts designed for this use. only hacking at anything you need to do the proper way is heat shrink and your tubing.
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Its nice that someone is really that creative and put so much effort to put a custom loop together but i agree that instead of buying an relatively expensive Corsair unit he would be better off buying an proper water block from EK or XSPC. He would be cheaper as well.
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eh… no…
you go to that kind of hassle you might as well do it will actually good parts, rather than the cheap junk you get with AIO water coolers.
do it right and do it once.. use the proper parts designed for this use.
only hacking at anything you need to do the proper way is heat shrink and your tubing.
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Early UD5 boards were pretty poor IMHO, some did not have a proper LLC implementation for the FX chips.
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I strongly disagree with you on this, its just the other way around, i had the UD5 rev 1.1 and it was an fantastic board on all fronts. The only draw back is that with my Sabertooth i can clock higher while maintaining stability. That’s the only reason i went for the Sabertooth to be honest, as for the rest i like the UD5 more. The later revisions is an different story as the UEFI BIOS of these rev 3.x boards are a nightmare, i owned both rev 1.1 and rev 3.0 and the first one was the best.
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So while you all discuss the UD5, any other pointers I could use? Personally, I’m not a fan of the UD5, a Rev 1 died on me and killed my CPU and I’m not impressed at how restrictive the bios feels in comparison to my sabretooth.
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Early UD5 boards were pretty poor IMHO, some did not have a proper LLC implementation for the FX chips.
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i don’t think that would be a popular opinion around here… actually much the contrary
UD5’s have always been highly regarded as one of the best am3+ boards
also the board in question isn’t a early ud5…
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shh…. it is KarathKasun.. he cant be wrong, even though you are right…
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Originally Posted by KarathKasun
You might try tweaking voltages in the bios. What you are describing sounds like excessive vdroop.
I dont care what the opinion is, Ive worked with a few of the boards (2013 models) and they are a major PITA compared to any other AM3+ board.
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So while you all discuss the UD5, any other pointers I could use? Personally, I’m not a fan of the UD5, a Rev 1 died on me and killed my CPU and I’m not impressed at how restrictive the bios feels in comparison to my sabretooth.
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reset to bone stock and reflash bios,
also i always have to ask is the battery old ? bios batteries from personal experience are a pain to diag and can cause alot of stuff
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shh…. it is KarathKasun.. he cant be wrong, even though you are right…
see told ya
reset to bone stock and reflash bios,also i always have to ask is the battery old ? bios batteries from personal experience are a pain to diag and can cause alot of stuff
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Hi Mega man, the board is only 3yrs old or so and everything is bone stock already. If the bios battery is dying then why isn’t the clock and date resetting? Could it just be fluffed auto settings?
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Hi Mega man, the board is only 3yrs old or so and everything is bone stock already. If the bios battery is dying then why isn’t the clock and date resetting? Could it just be fluffed auto settings?
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think of it like this the cmos battery keeps your settings on the bios chip intact when your pc it’s powered off…too low our no voltage on anything can cause problems…with cmos battery though it can cause very odd issues with boots and even post processes in some cases
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Just noticed this in one of my local fora. It’s a registry Tweak for increased performance for AMD CPUs (FX file included). For any brave souls wanting to try, here’s the link:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/hnwj5ownj2voj/G-RegTweak_%7BAMD%7D_downloads
If you see benefits, please post back (guinea pigs needed).
It has a readme file too and explains the registry tweaks, but don’t ask me if they are useful or not. Benchmark lovers, warm up your engines.
P.S.: Don’t blame me if it borks your Windows. According to the author’s «readme», the higher the overclock, the bigger the benefit.
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Just noticed this in one of my local fora. It’s a registry Tweak for increased performance for AMD CPUs (FX file included). For any brave souls wanting to try, here’s the link:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/hnwj5ownj2voj/G-RegTweak_%7BAMD%7D_downloads
If you see benefits, please post back (guinea pigs needed).
It has a readme file too and explains the registry tweaks, but don’t ask me if they are useful or not. Benchmark lovers, warm up your engines.
P.S.: Don’t blame me if it borks your Windows. According to the author’s «readme», the higher the overclock, the bigger the benefit.
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I say nay. He who discovered the program runs the program. :thumb
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I guess i have to look in the custom loop area like FLail said.
I really like this kit but sadly it doesn’t fit inside my case
https://shop.ekwb.com/ek-kit-x240
This would be more compatible but i don’t like the horrible black tubing to be honest. https://shop.ekwb.com/ek-kit-l240-1
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The horrible black tubing is basically leak-proof. And, if you’re going to spend the money on a loop you may as well get an external rad and mount it on your case if you can’t fit at least a 360 in it.
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The horrible black tubing is basically leak-proof. And, if you’re going to spend the money on a loop you may as well get an external rad and mount it on your case if you can’t fit at least a 360 in it.
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I agree. I was looking at some custom loop 240mm kits but it’s not worth the money performance wise. I also want to cool the vrm and possibly add an gpu block so I need at least 480mm Rad in order to keep it cool. To take everything in consideration it’s way to expensive for me at he moment after all. If I add up the cost of my own configured custom loop is about 4 a 500 euro’s which is way too much I can and will spend on cooling.
I was also lookingat at the alphacool eisberg 240l and the raijintek 240mm but both have lots of issues and a lot of customers complaining about the leaking so I am kinda stuck with aio coolers at the moment because I don’t want an humongous air cooler in my case if it will fit in the first place.
So the question becomes, what is the best 240mm cooler this time.. seen lots of reviews but the results vary too much to come to an conclusion. Need to investigate more I guess. Don’t have much time tho because the pump of my corsair h200i shuts down sometimes, my system shut down 2 times because it over heated. . I am not that keen on buying corsair aio again to be honest since this is the second unit that went bad in a relative short period of time..
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I agree. I was looking at some custom loop 240mm kits but it’s not worth the money performance wise. I also want to cool the vrm and possibly add an gpu block so I need at least 480mm Rad in order to keep it cool. To take everything in consideration it’s way to expensive for me at he moment after all. If I add up the cost of my own configured custom loop is about 4 a 500 euro’s which is way too much I can and will spend on cooling.
I was also lookingat at the alphacool eisberg 240l and the raijintek 240mm but both have lots of issues and a lot of customers complaining about the leaking so I am kinda stuck with aio coolers at the moment because I don’t want an humongous air cooler in my case if it will fit in the first place.
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So the question becomes, what is the best 240mm cooler this time.. seen lots of reviews but the results vary too much to come to an conclusion. Need to investigate more I guess. Don’t have much time tho because the pump of my corsair h200i shuts down sometimes, my system shut down 2 times because it over heated.. I am not that keen on buying corsair aio again to be honest since this is the second unit that went bad in a relative short period of time..
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The best 240mm rad? I’d recommend at least 600mm+ for a properly cooled overclocked rig, my system soon heat soaked a 240mm and 120mm rad and it’s still a struggle with a 360 and 240 rads
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Okay update on my brother’s system, taken everything off auto in the bios it’s now passing IBT tests without freezing randomly it’s currently doing a maximum test.
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I say nay. He who discovered the program runs the program.
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Where’s your adventuring spirit?! Where’s the overclocker’s thirst to get the last drop of performance?!
I am the guy who is extremely happy running FX at 4Ghz. So i am not remotely interested in «moar power». Seriously, i don’t visit my local forum often, but i noticed that this guy had that in his signature. So i thought it could interest you.
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I agree. I was looking at some custom loop 240mm kits but it’s not worth the money performance wise. I also want to cool the vrm and possibly add an gpu block so I need at least 480mm Rad in order to keep it cool. To take everything in consideration it’s way to expensive for me at he moment after all. If I add up the cost of my own configured custom loop is about 4 a 500 euro’s which is way too much I can and will spend on cooling.
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I was also lookingat at the alphacool eisberg 240l and the raijintek 240mm but both have lots of issues and a lot of customers complaining about the leaking so I am kinda stuck with aio coolers at the moment because I don’t want an humongous air cooler in my case if it will fit in the first place.
So the question becomes, what is the best 240mm cooler this time.. seen lots of reviews but the results vary too much to come to an conclusion. Need to investigate more I guess. Don’t have much time tho because the pump of my corsair h200i shuts down sometimes, my system shut down 2 times because it over heated.. I am not that keen on buying corsair aio again to be honest since this is the second unit that went bad in a relative short period of time..
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The best 240mm rad? I’d recommend at least 600mm+ for a properly cooled overclocked rig, my system soon heat soaked a 240mm and 120mm rad and it’s still a struggle with a 360 and 240 rads
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Rad area isn’t simply calculated on one dimension of the radiator.
360 or 240+120 should be enough for this set up.
why do i say this? from 240-360 didn’t gain much.. at that point of the cooling you need a better pump and a better plate to make a difference.
@hurricane if you are bound and determined to use an AIO, just get the EK pred (yes i know intel block)
take the intel block off and sell it. then you’ve got the best AIO pump and rad combo to work with. you will need to buy your FX block your VRm block and gpu block.
but once you do that it doesn’t make sense to just buy a kit.
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Originally Posted by Undervolter
Just noticed this in one of my local fora. It’s a registry Tweak for increased performance for AMD CPUs (FX file included). For any brave souls wanting to try, here’s the link:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/hnwj5ownj2voj/G-RegTweak_%7BAMD%7D_downloads
If you see benefits, please post back (guinea pigs needed).
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It has a readme file too and explains the registry tweaks, but don’t ask me if they are useful or not. Benchmark lovers, warm up your engines.
P.S.: Don’t blame me if it borks your Windows. According to the author’s «readme», the higher the overclock, the bigger the benefit.
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don’t share something you won’t use yourself. no one knows where this came from cept you maybe..
when it comes to registry you really should know what is being done to it.
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don’t share something you won’t use yourself. no one knows where this came from cept you maybe..
when it comes to registry you really should know what is being done to it.
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This is what’s being done for the record:
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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Environment]
«CPUID_ISA»=»TRUE»
«PROCESSORS_DATA_PREFETCHERS»=»TRUE»
«ENABLE_FLEXIBLE_KERNEL_ADAPTIVE»=»TRUE»
«ProcessorsCodeOnSuperscalarExecution»=»TRUE»
«ENABLE_PARALLELS_FPUs»=»TRUE»
«NB_DEVICE_ID»=»TRUE»
«SB_DEVICE_ID»=»TRUE»
«EnableCpuBusInterconnecting»=»TRUE»
«AssignTheCorrectedThreadsToProcessors»=»YES»
«INTERNAL_128_BIT_ARCH_PATHS»=»TRUE
«INTERNAL_256_BIT_ARCH_PATHS»=»TRUE
«OS_NUMA_SUPPORT»=»YES»
«EnablingPeerToPeerTrafficAccesses»=»YES»
«ENABLE_DUAL_DCT_ID»=»TRUE»
«EnableInterleavingThreadings»=»TRUE»
«SupportToMoreCombiningsThreadsAllAtOnce «=»TRUE»
«SupportToMoreIndividualsTasksSingly»=»TRUE»
«GPUID_FEATURE_SETS»=»TRUE»
«PROCESSOR_PREDECODE_CACHES»=»TRUE»
«SheduleByOsAlgorithm»=»TRUE»
«CachingBranchPredictionTableToL1L2L3″=»YES»[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management]
«GranularitySize»=»AUTO»
«144BitDdrChannelsEnabled»=hex(b):01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
«IncreaseDataQueueSizeEnabled»=dword:00000001
«AllocatingInOutBuffersEnabled»=hex(b):01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
«ChunkSizeCachingEnabled»=hex(b):01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
«ThirdLevelDataCacheSharedBetweenThemProcessors»=dword:00000001
«InterleavingModeFromBiosEnabled»=dword:00000001
«SDRAM_DEVICES_ID»=dword:00000001
«CLFLUSH»=hex(b):01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
«EnablePageCache»=dword:00000001
«SupportToMoreAccessesToEachBankForMoreIndependentsThreads»=»TRUE»
«DataBufferSize»=dword:00010000
«PageCacheSize»=dword:00010000
«EnableQueueRate»=hex(b):01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00Click to expand.
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don’t share something you won’t use yourself. no one knows where this came from cept you maybe..
when it comes to registry you really should know what is being done to it.
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This is what’s being done for the record:
Quote:[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Environment]
«CPUID_ISA»=»TRUE»
«PROCESSORS_DATA_PREFETCHERS»=»TRUE»
«ENABLE_FLEXIBLE_KERNEL_ADAPTIVE»=»TRUE»
«ProcessorsCodeOnSuperscalarExecution»=»TRUE»
«ENABLE_PARALLELS_FPUs»=»TRUE»
«NB_DEVICE_ID»=»TRUE»
«SB_DEVICE_ID»=»TRUE»
«EnableCpuBusInterconnecting»=»TRUE»
«AssignTheCorrectedThreadsToProcessors»=»YES»
«INTERNAL_128_BIT_ARCH_PATHS»=»TRUE
«INTERNAL_256_BIT_ARCH_PATHS»=»TRUE
«OS_NUMA_SUPPORT»=»YES»
«EnablingPeerToPeerTrafficAccesses»=»YES»
«ENABLE_DUAL_DCT_ID»=»TRUE»
«EnableInterleavingThreadings»=»TRUE»
«SupportToMoreCombiningsThreadsAllAtOnce «=»TRUE»
«SupportToMoreIndividualsTasksSingly»=»TRUE»
«GPUID_FEATURE_SETS»=»TRUE»
«PROCESSOR_PREDECODE_CACHES»=»TRUE»
«SheduleByOsAlgorithm»=»TRUE»
«CachingBranchPredictionTableToL1L2L3″=»YES»[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management]
«GranularitySize»=»AUTO»
«144BitDdrChannelsEnabled»=hex(b):01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
«IncreaseDataQueueSizeEnabled»=dword:00000001
«AllocatingInOutBuffersEnabled»=hex(b):01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
«ChunkSizeCachingEnabled»=hex(b):01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
«ThirdLevelDataCacheSharedBetweenThemProcessors»=dword:00000001
«InterleavingModeFromBiosEnabled»=dword:00000001
«SDRAM_DEVICES_ID»=dword:00000001
«CLFLUSH»=hex(b):01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
«EnablePageCache»=dword:00000001
«SupportToMoreAccessesToEachBankForMoreIndependentsThreads»=»TRUE»
«DataBufferSize»=dword:00010000
«PageCacheSize»=dword:00010000
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I ll just leave it in case someone understands the above and is interested.
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Thank you for that,
looks like from my very limited understand the first part is unparking threads., or at-least part of it is doing that.
The rest.. I’ve got not clue will wait for someone brighter and smarter than I to chime in
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Rad area isn’t simply calculated on one dimension of the radiator.
360 or 240+120 should be enough for this set up.
why do i say this? from 240-360 didn’t gain much.. at that point of the cooling you need a better pump and a better plate to make a difference.
@hurricane if you are bound and determined to use an AIO, just get the EK pred (yes i know intel block)
take the intel block off and sell it. then you’ve got the best AIO pump and rad combo to work with. you will need to buy your FX block your VRm block and gpu block.
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but once you do that it doesn’t make sense to just buy a kit.
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Agree, in order to get the best performance you have to have a balance between radiator, pump, CPU block and fans. After some research about custom loop i came to the conclusion that the best way for my needs is to go with an D5 pump as it is the most powerful pump out there and a 480 mm slim radiator with high fin density for optimal heat dissipation and build from there if i want to have the best performance. I can mount the radiator on the back of my case which does not only look better but is also better performance wise because with this setup you no longer rely on case airflow that much.
I called the retail store where i got my Corsair unit from and they said i can get my money back (99 euro’s) and i can only add little money to that in order to buy a new cooler at the moment so i am in a difficult situation at the moment lol
I am just looking for the best 240 mm aio perhaps customizable unit for the price and the Alphacool eisbeg 240 and the Raijintek tritan core 240 mm were my options but i am not that confident on buying them after i seen many people have trouble wit the pump and the high potential of leaking. . such a shame tho, i really like those coolers to be honest, perhaps i should just try and see what i get and if things turnout bad i can always return them since i buy them from the best retail shop i can find.
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Why didn’t the maker of this registry tweak test it himself?
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Why didn’t the maker of this registry tweak test it himself?
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Maybe i wasn’t clear enough. The maker of the tweak is apparently very confident about it, that is suggesting it to users that visit that forum. It’s me who isn’t aware of what it does. He seems to have done an entire series of tweaks for every AMD CPU. He is a forum member there from 2011 with 2000 posts. But i don’t follow that forum often, so i don’t know him nor his tweak.
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AMD FX-8320E (Vishera) 8-Core Processor Review – goldfries
The AMD FX-8320E – not something that’s exactly new but in fact it’s actually quite old as the Codename Vishera for AMD’s Piledriver core based FX series processors surfaced many years ago. The thing about the FX-8320E is that it’s improved with lower TDP, from a whopping 125w down to 95w.
Processor Details
Here’s the CPU-Z capture.
Everything is essentially as the other FX-8xxx series, so the FX-8320E is exactly the same processor as the FX-8320 released 3 years ago (in 2012) running at lower power consumption.
Let’s cut to the chase – benchmarks! Oh but before that, I managed to overclock the processor to 4Ghz with vcore at around 1. 2.
Test Setup & Overclocking
Benchmarks
The following are the test results. Note that there’s the STOCK setup and there’s the 3.5Ghz setup where the frequency is fixed, this is to see how it actually performs without fluctuating clock.
x264 – 10bit to 8bit Video Conversion
The source video is a 720p MKV file that is 90 seconds in duration. x264 settings at the slowest.
CPU | Time Taken |
AMD FX 8320E stock | 234 seconds |
AMD FX 8320E 3.5Ghz | 215 seconds |
AMD FX 8320E @ 4Ghz | 202 seconds |
AMD FX 8350 | 192 seconds |
The overclock gave the Pentium a significant boost in performance but it’s still no where near the capability of a Core i3 with 2C / 4T.
Cinebench R15
Default settings
CPU | CB |
AMD FX 8320E stock | 509 |
AMD FX 8320E 3.![]() |
556 |
AMD FX 8320E @ 4Ghz | 599 |
AMD FX 8350 | 633 |
WinRAR
Speed of archiving some almost 1GB worth of CR2 and MOV file.
CPU | Time Taken |
AMD FX 8320E stock | 52 seconds |
AMD FX 8320E 3.5Ghz | 46 seconds |
AMD FX 8320E @ 4Ghz | 45 seconds |
AMD FX 8350 | 50 seconds |
While it’s beyond my explanation on how the FX-8320E and FX-8350 exchange blows, it’s good to see that the FX-8320E does give the FX-8350 a good challenge.
Power Consumption
Power Consumption measurement is based on readings taken from watt-meter. Power consumption is based on entire system, comprising of the processor, a motherboard, 2 sticks of RAM and 1 fan for cooling purpose. For this setup, the power consumption is inclusive of the HD 7750 graphic card.
Condition | Peak (W) |
Idle | 56 |
Prime95 In-place Large FFT | 136 |
Video Conversion | 123 |
Temperature
goldfries. com’s lab temperature is set at +/- 25°C
CPU | Temperature (°C) |
Idle | 35 |
Load (Stock fan setting) | 54 |
Load (Silent fan setting) | 61 |
The stock heatsink handled the 4Ghz @ 1.20 vcore overclock fine BUT the processor is throttled quite often. Basically it works, the fan will be at full RPM once the temperature peaks and the processor down-clocks to 1.7Ghz – 2Ghz range from time to time.
I’m quite surprised at the temperature level because on stock settings the stock heatsink doesn’t feel hot, which is very unlike the 125w AMD FX processors and APU.
The Verdict
It’s not new and it’s not revolutionary either but it’s a great step ahead. You now have an 8-core 3.5Ghz processor solution at under RM 600, the processor retails at around RM 570. 🙂 It performs very close to the 125w FX-8350 that’s priced at around RM 700. A decent 970 chipset based board like GIGABYTE’s 970A-DS3P retails at around RM 310 and you have a great setup for under RM 900, much cheaper than having an Intel Core i7 with Z97 board setup.