Nvidia 460 gtx overclock: NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 460: The $200 King

NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 460: The $200 King

by Ryan Smithon July 11, 2010 11:54 PM EST

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IndexGF104: NVIDIA Goes SuperscalarThe Rest of GF104Meet the GTX 460The TestCrysis: WarheadBattleForge: DX10BattleForge: DX11HAWXLeft 4 DeadBattlefield: Bad Company 2STALKER: Call of PripyatDIRT 2Mass Effect 2WolfensteinCompute & Tessellation PerformancePower, Temperature, & NoiseOverclockingConclusion


Overclocking


Last but not least on our tour of the GeForce GTX 460 is a look at the overclocking abilities of the card. As we discussed earlier, NVIDIA is heavily promoting the overclockability of the card to the press, proclaiming that they are regularly able to get most cards up to 800MHz. We’re in a unique situation today to put that to the test, as along with our 2 reference cards, we have an additional 4 vendor cards from our GTX 460 roundup to tinker with. With 6 cards on hand we have a non-definitive but still very useful sample set to work with to verify just how overclockable these cards are, and what kind of a power penalty this entails.


For the purposes of this section we are focusing on the overclockability of the core, but not the memory. NVIDIA’s weaker GDDR5 memory controller coupled with the tendency for memory overclocking to reduce performance through the need to use error detection and retransmission makes memory overclocking much more difficult and often a bust entirely.


As not all of our cards are exactly alike, we’ll quickly run down the differences between the various cards


  • 1x NVIDIA GTX 460 768MB Reference

  • 1x NVIDIA GTX 460 1GB Reference

  • 2x EVGA GTX 460 768MB SuperClocked: Reference PCB and cooler, factory overclocked

  • 1x Zotac GTX 460 1GB: Reference-derived PCB, custom blower-style cooler

  • 1x Asus ENGTX460 768MB TOP: Custom PCB, custom cooler, factory overclocked, voltage tweak

     











 

Stock Clock

Max Overclock

Stock Voltage

Overclocked Voltage

GTX 460 768MB Reference

675MHz

840MHz

0. 987v

N/A

GTX 460 1GB Reference

675MHz

825MHz

1.025v

N/A

EVGA GTX 460 768MB SuperClocked #1

763MHz

850MHz

1.000v

N/A

EVGA GTX 460 768MB SuperClocked #2

763MHz

840MHz

0. 975v

N/A

Zotac GTX 460 1GB

675MHz

835MHz

1.000v

N/A

Asus ENGTX460 768MB TOP

700MHz

930MHz

0.975v

1.062v

GTX 460 1GB SLI

675MHz

800MHz

N/A

N/A

EVGA GTX 460 768MB SuperClocked SLI

763MHz

840MHz

N/A

N/A


Among our 5 cards without voltage tweaking capabilities, all of the cards are closely clustered together in terms of the final stable overclock, with only a 25MHz difference between the top and bottom cards. The 1GB cards ended up with slightly lower overclocks than the 768MB cards, which is likely a product of the 1GB cards containing further enable ROPs and L2 cache than the 768MB cards. Meanwhile the best overclock on a card we got without a voltage tweak was one of our EVGA cards, which was able to go to 850MHz. On average we were able to attain a 24% overclock over the GTX 460 reference clock of 675MHz, and in the case of the EVGA cards a 10% overclock over their factory speed of 763MHz.


The lone standout in the group is the Asus card, which has voltage tweaking capabilities that allow us to increase the core voltage beyond the GPU’s VID. Asus’s SmartDoctor software allows for the card to be overvolted to 1.087v in 0.0125v increments, however in testing we found that anything over 1.062v would ultimately cause the card to fall back to 405MHz, which we believe to be the card’s VRM protection kicking in after the VRMs overheated. At 1.062v we were able to get the card to up 930MHz, a 33% overclock from the factory overclocked speed of 700MHz, and 38% faster than the GTX 460 reference clock of 675MHz.


Overall the impact of overclocking is heavily game dependent. Core overclocking favors games that are ROP/shader limited and has little effectiveness on games that are limited by the total available RAM or by memory bandwidth. For this reason out of our subset of games core overclocking was most effective on Battleforge and Bad Company 2, while only moderately effective on Crysis and STALKER. On Crysis and STALKER overclocking was at best only marginally more useful than having a 1GB card. And even with its greater core overclock, the Asus ENGTX260 is not immune to this effect once the 1GB cards are overclocked – it still falls behind an overclocked 1GB card ¾ of the time.


Currently the sweet spot would look to be a 1GB card with a lesser overclock. The additional RAM/L2/ROPs more than makes up for the higher overclocks the 768MB cards can attain in most situations.


For the cards without voltage tweaking capabilities, the power consumption penalty for overclocking is very minor due to the fact that power consumption increases with voltage much faster than it does with frequency. For the stock-clocked cards this is a 15W-25W penalty, while the factory overclocked cards are even lower (thanks to binning) at just 9W. Meanwhile as expected the Asus card with its voltage tweaking capabilities ends up witnessing a larger jump in power consumption in return for its greater overclock capabilities: 70W.


With only a minor increase in power consumption and the use of very efficient coolers, the GTX 460 only experiences a minor rise in temperature when overclocking without voltage modification. All of our cards with the exception of the Zotac under Furmark only rise in temperature by a few degrees, leaving temperatures well in the safe range for these cards. Even the Asus card with voltage modification stays fairly cool thanks to its more aggressive fan, rising by up to 10C under Furmark but still only becoming as warm as our stock-cooled cards in the first place.


Last but not least we have the noise factor. Thanks to the very low increase in power consumption these cards experience when overclocking, the coolers on these cards have to do very little to handle the extra heat. For the cards without voltage modding, the amount of noise generated increased by less than 1.5dB, and in the case of our EVGA cards didn’t increase at all. This results in our GTX 460 cards remaining as some of the quietest mid and high-end cards we’ve ever benchmarked, even with a 24% overclock.


The Asus card is of course the exception to the rule here, once again due to a combination of the more aggressive cooler and voltage modification. Here the amount of noise generated shoots up by 4.4dB when overclocked, which is a fair trade for the overclock but is definitely going to be more noticeable than the rest of the cards in our collection.


With all of this taken in to consideration, there’s little we can do to argue with NVIDIA’s claims about the GTX 460’s overclocking capabilities. One thing we need to make clear before going any further though is this: overclocking is not guaranteed. In our briefings with NVIDIA, they have told us that they know not every GTX 460 can hit 800MHz+, which in turn is part of the reason why the stock clock is only 675MHz. We believe a majority of cards will be strong overclockers, but this cannot be applied to all cards. Buying a GTX 460 is still going to rely on the luck of the draw, only the odds are very good at the moment. So if you absolutely must have an overclocked card, then a factory overclocked card is still the way to go.


At this point if you do receive a strong card it makes little sense not to overclock thanks to the very small increase in power consumption (and as a result, temperatures and noise) that overclocking causes. This is as close to as free of an overclock as there can be for a video card, so run with it and enjoy performance approaching a Radeon HD 5850.


Finally, if you are going to overclock, what kind of a card should you be shooting for? As it turns out the reference cooler does a very good job of hitting a balance between cooling needs and noise, while Zotec’s cooler does worse and Asus’s cooler does better at a cost of additional noise. We will add that we believe that overclocked 1GB cards are a better way to go just like we believe that 1GB cards are the way to go when at stock clocks, but ultimately this becomes a matter of affordability. 

Power, Temperature, & Noise
Conclusion
IndexGF104: NVIDIA Goes SuperscalarThe Rest of GF104Meet the GTX 460The TestCrysis: WarheadBattleForge: DX10BattleForge: DX11HAWXLeft 4 DeadBattlefield: Bad Company 2STALKER: Call of PripyatDIRT 2Mass Effect 2WolfensteinCompute & Tessellation PerformancePower, Temperature, & NoiseOverclockingConclusion

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Sup yall!

Ok, so this is the story…

When I bought my GTX460 the box had a large badge saying ‘Voltage tweak!’ and well you can imagine my first impressions… «no way I’m going to do any voltage changes on this baby…» lol. Well I did a little research and found that there really isnt anything to worry about changing the voltage on the GTX460, as the max limit in MSI Afterbuner is safe.

So this morning I did a little overclocking on it to see how high I could go…
Here are my results…

885MHZ! and 2000MHZ! on the memory! total ownage if you ask me.
It’s 10 minutes Furmark stable and seems to run smoothly in Bad Company 2 at max settings.
I threw in my cpu clock too, hehe

Stock voltage on the card is 0.975v and I have raised it to 1.035v to achieve 885mhz, it also maxes out at 74c at full load.
It’s an Asus Geforce gtx460 1gb version.

The max that MSI Afterburner allows is 1.087v, I’m pretty sure I could get it to 900mhz although I dont want to push my luck.

One thing I noticed about this card while overclocking, is that it never artifacts? Instead when it becomes unstable it simply crashes furmark, BSOD’s or locks up. This makes it slightly harder to interperate weather the card is running stable

Also the card makes an almighty whining noise from the onboard capacitors when it’s under full load, this baby is pulling more than 300w at 885mhz!

Really happy with the results and would love to know what you think

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I had mine at 900MHz, but I don’t remember the specs I had it at. I’ve got a Sparkle GTX 460 1GB.

I ended up getting a messed up driver and it just threw up my GPU, had to uninstall and reinstall, and I lost my GPU specs for it’s OC. So I copied yours. Thanks.

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lol, not what I expected but glad I helped

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nice overclock, but you need to run OCCT for a min 20min in full screen with shader complaxity 8 and enable error check. if you get no errors then you got a stable over clock.

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Nice OC….. m thinkin about pickin one up. Wanna go back to my first luv nvidia too badly.

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Nice oc, my max stable OC was 950/1900 (core/shader) and 2100 mem. but my 24/7 clock is 900/1800/2100

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Originally Posted by marduke83;12094298
Nice oc, my max stable OC was 950/1900 (core/shader) and 2100 mem. but my 24/7 clock is 900/1800/2100

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mine are very similar just the memory it’s @2000MHz and run everything stable all day playing games and watching movies, also making some benchmarks and stress test like kombustor (of course not at the same time, i won’t push my luck to much lol)

voltage 1.087v
core 900MHz
shader 1800MHz
memory 2000MHz

then i raise 930/1860/2200 and there was problems, with this setting the heaven benchmark run fine but in crysis and aliens vs predator (DX11) the graphics are not good, in both games the buildings and vegetation seems their images are repeated in the sky it’s like the kaleidoscope effect, I don’t know exactly how to explain, and in crysis the map only see the bottom half, the other half is blurry, and objects marked on the minimap are also fuzzy.
The OS never crash but is not fun to playlike this, and every time the game just frozen and had to close and restart again

I think that’s happen because of the memory @2200MHz, i will try again with the memory at stock speed

I forgot to tell my card is the 768Mb version but i think is similar in the core and shaders frecuency

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Nice overclocks!
Been pushing my card a little further and have managed to achieve this…

OCCT 20 minutes stable at shader complexity 8.
Furmark stable for 10 minutes.
Will test my card for longer though.
So far 100% stable though.
Only thing worring me now is the temps, my 460 hit 80c in occt :/

Anywayz, it runz beast tho, lol.

Peace everyone

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Mine only goes to 850

Need to up the voltage i think. What’s the max voltage i can push through this thing??? 1.050???

Might be getting 570 at the end of the month so i’d like to hit this cards peak.

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mine goes up to 875 ( carnt get 880 stable lol )
but hey stock volts

pretty sure someone was running 2 460’s in sli @ 900mhz each..
and heard people getting them up to 1ghz. but yeh lol i dnt think ill be pushing my card that far for now.

friend can get 900mhz think.. idk what volts and think 1ghz lasted like 10min under furmark xD idk what volts again lol

nice oc btw :]

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What’s the max voltage i can push through this thing??? 1.050???

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Well the default voltage on the 1GB version of the gtx460 ranges from 0.975v to 1.05v depending on the make of your card. 768mb version is .975v.
The maximum voltage that the GTX460 BIOS allows is 1.087v on all makes and models, this voltage is safe to max out as long as the cooling is good enough around the vrms. It is possible to mod the BIOS to allow 1.21v but this is advanced stuff that isnt really worth it unless you are an overclocker with a mission, lol.
If you hear whining when you stress test the card, dont worry, it’s because there is more load on the capacitors to keep the voltages on the card in check.

Temp threshold is 105c and shutdown at 120c so I wouldnt worry about gpu temps.

Hope this helps

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Originally Posted by GreenNeon;12100647
Well the default voltage on the 1GB version of the gtx460 ranges from 0.975v to 1.05v depending on the make of your card. 768mb version is .975v.
The maximum voltage that the GTX460 BIOS allows is 1.087v on all makes and models, this voltage is safe to max out as long as the cooling is good enough around the vrms. It is possible to mod the BIOS to allow 1.21v but this is advanced stuff that isnt really worth it unless you are an overclocker with a mission, lol.
If you hear whining when you stress test the card, dont worry, it’s because there is more load on the capacitors to keep the voltages on the card in check.

Temp threshold is 105c and shutdown at 120c so I wouldnt worry about gpu temps.

Hope this helps

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That does help actually Thanks for replying.

And i always wondered about the whining thing too. Glad it’s nothing to worry about, always thought i was damaging my system lol.

Gonna whack up the volts and try 900mhz. Cheers.

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Originally Posted by lyster;12100749
That does help actually Thanks for replying.

And i always wondered about the whining thing too. Glad it’s nothing to worry about, always thought i was damaging my system lol.

Gonna whack up the volts and try 900mhz. Cheers.

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Ok my MSI cyclone never pass the 60 ºC at full load OC @900MHz core and there are no capacitors noise, but i think is because the military components that MSI use really is very cool and quite, i had an HD 4890 recently and the buzzing noise was excessive, but i think that is normal too

My voltage is 1. 087

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Originally Posted by Liighthead;12100314
mine goes up to 875 ( carnt get 880 stable lol )
but hey stock volts

pretty sure someone was running 2 460’s in sli @ 900mhz each..
and heard people getting them up to 1ghz. but yeh lol i dnt think ill be pushing my card that far for now.

friend can get 900mhz think.. idk what volts and think 1ghz lasted like 10min under furmark xD idk what volts again lol

nice oc btw :]

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ewan hit 930/1860/2100 in SLI with the msi gtx460 768mb cyclone

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Well TBH I think the whining noise varies from card to card and the benchmark/stress test you use. For example…, my 460 whines under load when I run furmark but when I run the more demanding OCCT stability test, my card doesnt whine at all? So I think it makes me believe that depending on the way a program has been designed to test your card you may or may not hear the noise. I’m not sure if its dependant on the quality of the parts, my ASUS Geforce GTX460 is built with high grade components as is pretty much every other GTX460 on the market. The military grade components linked with the MSI 460 is only marketed for the heatsink and shroud… Anyone want to back me up on this?

P.S. tested BFBC2 and it runs fine without and issues at 920mhz, have noticed that every now and then I see purple dots flash on the screen, usually when there is a sharp transition in the colours, like looking from the ground to the sky.

Peace

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gunna correct something here: maximum temperature for GTX 460 is 104 C

anyway i got mine folding stable at 900MHz 1.087v running at 69-72 C. currently at 69 C

i tried going higher but that get me artifacts on OCCT when temp breach like 75

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Here is mine. I do 975 core for gaming but this for folding.

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Desert, are your 460’s on water?

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Originally Posted by spice003;12094121
nice overclock, but you need to run OCCT for a min 20min in full screen with shader complaxity 8 and enable error check. if you get no errors then you got a stable over clock.

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Ooorrrr just play a game with Vsync off and play for a while to see if it’s stable? AvP is the best choice since it drives your card fairly hard.

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Here is mine. I do 975 core for gaming but this for folding.

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dam nice temps!

how they cooled
;D pics? what rad u useing?

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