Overclocking phenom 965: AMD’s Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition

Bit old school — Phenom II X4 965 BE OC question

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Hi all,

Its been many years since I have been on this forum but I need a bit of help on this, I am aware that the Phenom II CPUs are now very old considering its still running on the AM3 socket but I am enjoying seeing what I can get out of the CPU until I upgrade at some point in the future.

The CPU is currently a large bottleneck on my current graphics card — 4GB RX470, but I currently hold the highest benchmark score on Firestrike (all of them) for the processor and GPU combo, my physics score is holding me back getting a higher score which is CPU related.

I am currently running a basic overclock on the CPU of 4 GHz — 200 x 20, my Corsair RAM is only 1333mhz so might look to change to some 1600mhz sticks at some point, HT speed is set to 2000Mhz, cool and quiet is off, currently looking at the NB speed — its current at 200 x 13 so 2600mhz. I am currently stuck at the 4GHz mark, I have got a valid CPU-z at 4.1ghz but its not stable enough to run through benchmarks:

4.0Ghz stable — although have bumped the NB further since validation — max temp under load has been around 51C, am currently using a basic AIO water cooler after swapping out a Hyper 212 Evo — aware that he thermal wall is at 55c.

https://valid.x86.fr/56m221

4.1Ghz not 100% stable but enough to run and validate (voltage is higher than needed)

https://valid.x86.fr/ne7tra

I am still running the stock NB voltage of 1.1v, might look to run to 1.2v and push for 2800mhz or maybe 3000mhz to hopefully bump the performance slightly, I can tell by looking at the highest benchmark scores of those running a single RX470 that I am basically close limit of the card in terms of FPS performance and overclock before I start to get artifacts.

Worth noting that this is a bit of fun, I am aware that the CPU is old but its interesting to see how far I can go and run the current generation of benchmarking — worth also noting that my current score on Firestrike is better than 57% of other benchmarks so not too bad for such an old CPU! Here is my current highest benchmark so far at 9,505 — https://www. 3dmark.com/fs/17209628.

I was looking at the X6 as a possible upgrade on the AM3 as they aren’t that expensive but I think I will plan to carry on with the X4 overclock for the time being.

My PC is used for general use as well as running games at 1080p — I can run most of the games I own on full settings with 60fps (apart from Metro 2033!) — the overclocking and benchmarking is more of a bit of fun to see how far I can go.

I have a couple of questions though as I am looking to push past the 4Ghz mark:

Northbridge speed — will running the NB speed at 2800 or 3000 and bump the voltage to 1.2v help with stability — I believe the best speed at 4Ghz is at around 2600 which is currently is at
RAM — would swapping out to 1600 sticks work better — currently have 2 x 2Gb sticks and 2 x 4Gb sticks running in ganged mode, should I run unganged? RAM is never at 100% so perhaps unganged might work?
RAM timings — currently at stock settings, should I look to tighten these up?

I think I am looking for some help to keep the system stable, I know it can clock higher but I am trying to work out which part of the system is causing the instability, its why I am using the unlocked multiplier first as then the RAM isn’t overclocked, I have also run the CPU at 1. 5v just to see if its a core voltage issue when pushing past 4 Ghz and it doesn’t seem to be as it still crashed out — trying different settings using AMD Overdrive at the moment.

I welcome any suggestions for this overclock, have been running a mild multiplier overclock for a while but didn’t really know about the extra performance the NB gave at above stock 2000mhz speeds.

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AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition – Techgage

Before discussing results, let’s take a minute to briefly discuss what I consider to be a worthwhile overclock. As I’ve mentioned in past content, I’m not as interested in finding the highest overclock possible as much as I am interested in finding the highest stable overclock. To me, if an overclock crashes the computer after a few minutes of running a stress-test, it has little value except for competition.

How we declare an overclock stable is simple… we stress it as hard as possible for a certain period of time, both with CPU-related tests and also GPU-related, to conclude on what we’ll be confident is 100% stability throughout all possible computing scenarios.

For the sake of CPU stress-testing, we use IntelBurnTest, for reasons I’ve laid out in a recent forum thread. Compared to other popular CPU stress-testers, IBT’s tests are far more gruelling, and proof of that is seen by the fact that it manages to heat the CPU up to 20°C hotter than competing applications, like SP2004. Also, despite its name, IntelBurnTest is just as effective on AMD processors. Generally, if the CPU survives the first half-hour of this stress, there’s a good chance that it’s mostly stable, but I strive for a 12 hour stress as long as time permits.

If the CPU stress passes without error, then GPU stress-testing begins, in order to assure a system-wide stable overclock. To test for this, 3DMark Vantage’s Extreme test is used, with the increased resolution of 2560×1600, looped nine times. If this passes, some time is dedicated to real-world game testing, to make sure that gaming is just as stable as it would be if the CPU were at stock. If both these CPU and GPU tests pass without issue, we can confidently declare a stable overclock.

Overclocking AMD’s X4 965 Black Edition

The 965 may only be a speed-bumped processor, but there’s something else interesting that came along with its launch… the AMD OverDrive Utility – still in beta. This sleek-looking application is a one-stop shop for both monitoring your machine, and overclocking your processor. Although the top buttons need a bit of alignment work, the application as a whole looks great, and offers a staggering amount of functionality.

In the screenshot below, you can see the section that attempts to auto-overclock your CPU. This, not surprisingly, is a time-consuming task, and it will always end in the PC crashing. Sadly, after our benchmarking machine crashed after running this tool, the previous “stable” settings were not retained – at least, not anywhere noticeable.

I have personally never been much of a fan of software overclocking tools, because the BIOS is simply easier – and way faster to deal with. But if you are an overclocking novice, there’s nothing wrong with using this tool – especially if all you’re looking for is a modest bump, and not the actual top-end of the processor.

When all said and done, my max “stable” overclock was 3.8GHz. I use stable in quotes because I didn’t achieve full stability (more like 90%) due to one main factor: heat. As I have mentioned many times in the past, the room where all the testing is done is constantly warmer than is ideal, so it limits a top-end overclock. In looking around the web, I’ve seen 3.8GHz as a stable overclock, so I’m confident that equipped with proper cooling and an ideal room temperature, 3.8GHz will be considered a minimum stable overclock.

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Processor AMD Phenom II X4 810

Home / Processors / AMD Phenom II X4 810

Edelmark rating — 3.7 out of 10;

Release date: February, 2009;

Number of cores: 4;

Frequency: 2.6 GHz;

Power consumption (TDP): 95W;

Specifications AMD Phenom II X4 810

General parameters

Clock speed 2. 6 GHz

Cores 4

Socket AM3

Unlock cores No

Functions

NX-bit (XD-bit) present Yes

Virtualization support Yes

Instructions supported SSE4a
3DNow!
SSE2
SSE
MMX
SSE3

Support for dynamic frequency scaling (CPU Throttling) Yes

Power consumption

Power consumption 95W

Annual cost of electricity (NON-commercial use) $22.89/year

Annual cost of electricity (commercial use) 83.22 $/year

Capacity per W 1.36pt/W

Average energy consumption 77.19W

Bus

Clock frequency 2. 000 MHz

Parts and features

Architecture x86-64

Threads 4

Second level cache (L2) 2MB

Second level cache per core (L2) 0.5 MB/core

L3 cache 4MB

Level 3 cache per core (L3) 1 MB/core

Process 45 nm

Maximum processors 1

Voltage range 0.88 — 1.43V

Operating temperature Unknown — 71°C

Overclocking Phenom II X4 810

Overclocking Clock 3.59 GHz

Water-cooled boost clock 2.6 GHz

Air cooled boost clock 3.59 GHz

Integrated graphics

Graphics core No

Brand No

Latest DirectX No

Number of displays supported No

Graphics core clock speed No

Maximum clock frequency No

3DMark06 No

Comparison of Phenom II X4 810 with similar processors

Performance

Performance using all cores.

Tested with: PCMark 8 Home 3.0 Accelerated, PassMark, Geekbench 3 Multi-Core.

Phenom II X4 810 4.2 out of 10

Core i5 4690K 7.7 out of 10

Phenom II X4 925 4.3 out of 10

Performance per core

Base performance per processor core.

Processor tested on: PassMark (Single Core), Geekbench 3 Single Core, Geekbench 3 AES Single Core.

Phenom II X4 810 3.3 out of 10

Core i5 4690K 9.2 out of 10

Phenom II X4 925 3.5 out of 10

Integrated Graphics

Integrated GPU performance for graphics tasks.

Phenom II X4 810 0.0 out of 10

Core i5 4690K 5.9 out of 10

Phenom II X4 925 0.0 out of 10

Integrated graphics (OpenCL)

Integrated GPU performance for parallel computing.

CPU tests were performed on: CompuBench 1.5 Bitcoin mining, CompuBench 1.5 Face detection, CompuBench 1.5 Ocean Surface Simulation, CompuBench 1.5 T-Rex, CompuBench 1.5 Video composition.

Phenom II X4 810 0.0 out of 10

Core i5 4690K 6.3 out of 10

Phenom II X4 925 0.0 out of 10

Performance per W

How efficiently the processor uses electricity.

Tests used: Fire Strike, CompuBench 1.5 Bitcoin mining, CompuBench 1.5 Face detection, CompuBench 1.5 Ocean Surface Simulation, CompuBench 1.5 T-Rex, CompuBench 1.5 Video composition, PCMark 8 Home 3.0 Accelerated, PassMark, Geekbench 3 Multi-Core , PassMark (Single Core), Geekbench 3 Single Core, Geekbench 3 AES Single Core, TDP.

Phenom II X4 810 4.5 out of 10

Core i5 4690K 9.4 out of 10

Phenom II X4 925 4. 6 out of 10

Price-performance ratio

How much you overpay for performance.

Processor tested on: Fire Strike, CompuBench 1.5 Bitcoin mining, CompuBench 1.5 Face detection, CompuBench 1.5 Ocean Surface Simulation, CompuBench 1.5 T-Rex, CompuBench 1.5 Video composition, PCMark 8 Home 3.0 Accelerated, PassMark, Geekbench 3 Multi-Core , PassMark (Single Core), Geekbench 3 Single Core, Geekbench 3 AES Single Core, Price.

Phenom II X4 810 no data

Core i5 4690K 6.7 out of 10

Phenom II X4 925 no data

Total Edelmark rating

Total processor rating.

Phenom II X4 810 3.7 out of 10

Core i5 4690K 9.2 out of 10

Phenom II X4 925 3.8 out of 10

Benchmarks Phenom II X4 810

GeekBench 3 (Multi-core)

Phenom II X4 810 4. 680

Core i5 4690K 11.924

Phenom II X4 925 5.150

GeekBench 3 (Single Core)

Phenom II X4 810 1.355

Core i5 4690K 3.649

Phenom II X4 925 1.478

GeekBench 3 (AES single core)

Phenom II X4 810 104,800 MB/s

Core i5 4690K 5,060,000 MB/s

Phenom II X4 925 113.350 MB/s

GeekBench (32-bit)

Phenom II X4 810 4.511

Core i5 4690K 11.872

Phenom II X4 925 5.009

GeekBench (64-bit)

Phenom II X4 810 6.041

Core i5 4690K 12.942

Phenom II X4 925 6. 430

GeekBench

Phenom II X4 810 6.041

Core i5 4690K 12.942

Phenom II X4 925 6.430

PassMark

Phenom II X4 810 3.139

Core i5 4690K 7.767

Phenom II X4 925 3.433

PassMark (Single Core)

Phenom II X4 810 910

Core i5 4690K 2.237

Phenom II X4 925 972

Video reviews

Phenom II X4 810 — AM3 Review

Budget PC build. Phenom II X4 In modern games.

Short Presentation and gta v Benchmark 1080p / Phenom II X4 810 / HD7750 / 4GB DDR3

Reviews about Phenom II X4 810

9008. Here is the opening of Athlon X2 for 1700r it’s the same thing, take a motherboard for 2500r GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3 rev.2.0 or
GA-MA770-US3 and unlock 2 more cores and 6mb cache from Athlon 2008 + runs well, cheap AMD memory 800r 8Gb, even if you didn’t have all this rubbish — the issue price is 3600r and we are in game

simply, there is an opinion that the controller \»amydi\» is crap …. works very poorly on different dies (well, or even with different volumes). For example, I launched my hodgepodge of (three single-rank and one dual-rank) RAM at 1333 and reduced the timings as much as possible.
then my old hair dryer 965 gave out a more or less smooth (not vyryglazny) picture o_O

+000213a yes but rather for these games this percentage is weak and not for the card, I think what thread is an ancient less demanding toy that flies on an athlone in some 8k resolution will load the full card and the plug will already be in it and not in the processor. That is, it is not the processor that slows down the card as such, but the application loads 9 percent0004

Tags:2.6 GHz, 95W, AMD, CPU, Phenom II X4 810

AMD Phenom II «Smart Selection» / Habr

DeDaL

February 4, 2010 at 14:53

Computer hardware

Today I will tell you about the extreme selection of AMD Phenom II 965 processors based on the new advanced C3 stepping.
3 copies of the processor were provided for selection.

First of all, it was decided to first try what they can do with air cooling. As a cooler, there was a standard box cooler, the one that comes in the boxed version of these processors. The technique is extremely simple: a specified voltage is applied to the core and the processor that passes the multi-threaded test at a higher frequency (for example, the CPU test from 3DMark 2006) is better. What was my surprise when it turned out by experimental method that all 3 copies lost stability at the same frequency! Next, I tried the reverse method: the frequency is set to 4000 MHz and the power to the core is gradually reduced. And the same here! All 3 copies faltered at 1.412 V. The conclusion can be drawn as follows: a well-functioning processor selection pipeline at the manufacturer’s factory, as well as a good percentage of good crystal yield.

3 prots in flight:

All test subjects had the same 33rd week of 2009:

But I was more interested not in the overclocking potential of processors in the air. Therefore, I assembled a stand and checked whether they are the same when using extreme cooling using liquid nitrogen (-196c).

Stand:

— AMD Phenom II 965 C3 revision socket AM3
— GIGABYTE 790FXTA-UD5 (first motherboard to support USB3.0 and SATA-III for AMD platform)
— 2x2048Mb Corsair DOMINATOR GT 2000C7
-ATI Radeon HD4890
-WD Raptor 740ADFD
— Enermax Revolution 1050W
– Windows Vista SP1 EN full tweaked
— cooling: nitrogen cup of our own design MiniGun rev. 1.4.

As you know, Phenom II processors and their derivative models like Athlon II do not have the concept of ColdBug (failure to work at low temperatures), therefore, let’s cool them to the limit, as far as nitrogen will allow us.

Work is in full swing …. and nitrogen too!)

All 3 in turn were checked first for maximum validation.
1st mastered 6658MHz
2nd mastered 6625MHz
The 3rd mastered 6727MHz , one is better than the previous 2, I will torment this one again.
valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=983081

The wPrime www.wprime.net multithreaded test followed.
The test puts quite a heavy load on the processor’s power converter and is demanding on the overall stability of the platform. It is also one of the disciplines of the hwbot.org world overclocker rating.

Passing the test at 6400MHz is a pretty serious statement, especially since it is in the top 5 in the world.
hwbot.