All MSI X470 and B450 Will Support AMD Ryzen 5000 Zen 3 CPUs
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by Peter Paul
In a recent announcement posted by MSI, the company has confirmed that all MSI 400 series motherboards will have BIOS updates that can support the Ryzen 5000 series CPUs. It is good news for those who are still rocking an X470 or B450 motherboard and plans to upgrade to the latest Zen 3 Ryzen 5000 CPUs later. You can check out more details below.
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Below is the entirety of MSI’s news:
MSI’s Entire Line-Up of AMD 400 Series Motherboards Will Support Ryzen 5000 Series Processors. AMD has officially announced Zen3 architecture Ryzen™ 5000 series processors on October 8th. The latest Zen3 processors have significant performance improvements compared to the previous 7nm Ryzen 3000 series processors. For the upcoming processors, MSI has released the latest AGESA COMBO PI V2 18.104.22.168 for all X570 and B550 series motherboards to perfectly utilize the PCI-E 4. 0 performance.
In response to the upgrade demands, AMD also mentioned the BIOS update for selected 400 series motherboards to support Ryzen™ 5000 series processors will be ready in January 2021. To respond to our users’ anticipation, MSI is announcing that all 400 series motherboards, including X470 and B450, MAX, or non-MAX products, will provide BIOS updates later on that can support Ryzen™ 5000 processors. All the evaluation is in progress under the R&D team. A detailed BIOS release schedule will be announced after the BIOS code is provided by AMD. Please stay tuned for the latest information on msi.com.
Regarding the 300 series motherboards, including X370, B350, and A320 chips, AMD’s current official information points out that they are not supported. If AMD makes any official updates later, MSI will also provide the latest information on time.
What Will You Miss If You Don’t Upgrade to X570 / B550?
Using a new Ryzen 5000 CPU on an older motherboard doesn’t have any performance loss. At least that’s the reports are saying. However, while opting not to upgrade to the latest X570 or B550 motherboard, you will miss out on some of the features that the newer motherboards offer. Whether you need those features or not is entirely up to you and your use case.
The most notable feature is the lack of PCIe 4.0 support on the X470 and B450 motherboards. You won’t be able to use the faster Gen4 NVMe SSDs on the older motherboards. You’ll also miss out on the faster WiFi 6. But like I said, it depends on whether you need them or not. Below is a table showing the difference between AMD’s chipsets.
If even you do plan to upgrade, you can check out some of the MSI X570 and B550 motherboards below.
MSI X570 Motherboards available on Newegg.com here
MSI B550 Motherboards available on Newegg.com here
B450 and X470 chipsets WILL support AMD Ryzen 4000 processors
Oh AMD, you flip-floppy old fish (don’t worry, we love you). Only a couple of weeks ago we reported that B450 and X470 chipsets won’t support Ryzen 4000 processors, and AMD confirmed this in a community blog post. But the company has since decided that it will, in fact, provide Zen 3 support for these chipsets.
AMDOfficial’s Reddit post, titled The ‘Zen 3’ architecture is coming to AMD X470 and B450, says that in the wake of its previous announcement (that B450 and X470 chipsets won’t support Zen 3), it listened to the public response and changed direction accordingly.
The company said “we closely reviewed your feedback on that news: we watched every video, read every comment, and saw every tweet. We hear that many of you hoped for a longer upgrade path. We hear your hope that AMD B450 and X470 chipsets would carry you into the ‘Zen 3’ era”.
And, after reviewing user feedback, AMD said it “will enable an upgrade path for B450 and X470 customers that adds support for next-gen AMD Ryzen Processors with the ‘Zen 3’ architecture”.
There was plenty of backlash against the original decision to lack support for Zen 3 on older generation motherboard chipsets, especially since AMD had previously seemed to push the AM4 platform as something to carry compatibility forwards through 2020. Having Zen 3 on only 5-series motherboards appeared to run counter to this commitment to forwards compatibility (or backwards compatibility, from the perspective of the CPU).
And so, despite technical challenges, AMD has again committed to this forwards compatibility, at least for the remainder of the AM4 socket’s lifecycle. There are, of course and as always, rumours abound, with many online leakers claiming Zen 3 support for even earlier chipsets like certain X370 motherboards – but none of this from AMD’s mouth.
For AMD’s official words, here’s how it says the upgrade path is expected to work for customers of B450 and X470 motherboards:
- “We will develop and enable our motherboard partners with the code to support Zen 3-based processors in select beta BIOSes for AMD B450 and X470 motherboards.
- These optional BIOS updates will disable support for many existing AMD Ryzen Desktop Processor models to make the necessary ROM space available.
- The select beta BIOSes will enable a one-way upgrade path for AMD Ryzen Processors with Zen 3, coming later this year. Flashing back to an older BIOS version will not be supported.
- To reduce the potential for confusion, our intent is to offer BIOS download only to verified customers of 400 Series motherboards who have purchased a new desktop processor with Zen 3 inside. This will help us ensure that customers have a bootable processor on-hand after the BIOS flash, minimizing the risk a user could get caught in a no-boot situation.
- Timing and availability of the BIOS updates will vary and may not immediately coincide with the availability of the first “Zen 3”-based processors.
- This is the final pathway AMD can enable for 400 Series motherboards to add new CPU support. CPU releases beyond Zen 3 will require a newer motherboard.
- AMD continues to recommend that customers choose an AMD 500 Series motherboard for the best performance and features with our new CPUs.”
So, in order to run a Zen 3 processor on a B450 or X470 motherboard, you’ll have to have purchased a new Zen 3 processor, and will then have the option to update your BIOS for Zen 3 support once these updates roll out. And these BIOS updates will disable support for many existing Ryzen processors, in order to provide ROM space for the new Zen 3 firmware. Seems a fair compromise to me – and if not fair, then necessary.
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AMD has confirmed that the upcoming Ryzen 3000 desktop processors based on the new Zen 2 microarchitecture will show identical performance both when installed in new motherboards based on the X570 chipset, and when used in boards based on the legacy X470 chipsets. and B450. And this is great news for those who, when switching to Ryzen 3000, do not want to spend money on the flagship X570 board, the cost of which at the first stage may be even higher than the new processors themselves, especially when compared with representatives of the Ryzen 5 series. Fortunately , for the new generation of Ryzen, it is quite acceptable to use cheaper platforms from the models already on the market and at the same time lose almost nothing.
The versatility of the Socket AM4 platform plays a positive role here, however, many boards based on the X370 and B350 chipsets, as well as boards based on the A320 chipset, may still not be compatible with the Ryzen 3000. But as for motherboards based on X470 and B450 chipsets, they are guaranteed to have no problems. And this is even a reason to extend the life cycle of such products, because motherboards based on the X570, which will be released together with the Ryzen 3000 processors, will be positioned by manufacturers as premium products. The mass segment, in which the appearance of a special updated B550 chipset is postponed until the end of the year, will be closed by the existing motherboards based on the X470 and B450 chipsets.
AMD Desktop Marketing Specialist Donny Woligroski explained that AMD’s X470 and B450 chipsets are by no means obsolete, and the company continues to consider them a suitable basis for boards that will install new Ryzen processors. third generation. « Just because the X570 exists and is the most advanced chipset you can get in 2019, it doesn’t mean that the old X470 and B450 chipsets are no longer relevant ,” he said during a Meet the Experts technical webinar.
Further, the specialist explained that motherboards based on X570 may be of interest only to enthusiasts who want to switch to using a video card or SSD with PCI Express 4.0 interface. « If you do not need to buy a PCI Express 4.0 SSD and do not plan to buy a PCI Express 4.0 graphics card in the next six months, it makes sense to focus on lower-end boards such as the X470 and B450, which, along with third-generation Ryzen processors will offer the same performance as the X570 ,” commented Donnie Woligroski. “The 3rd Gen Ryzen is a very, very advanced chip, and the IPC increases it makes don’t require any special boards. Platforms on the X470 and B450 will deliver the highest performance and very low power consumption of the .”
Thus, boards based on X470 and B450 chipsets unexpectedly turn out to be the most universal platform for Socket AM4 processors. Still, the rest of the boards do not seem to be able to provide end-to-end compatibility with any Ryzen, which AMD loves to boast about. Recall that motherboards based on the X570 will be deprived of support for the first generation of Ryzen, released on the 14nm process technology (Ryzen 1000 series CPUs and Ryzen 2000G series APUs). And many boards based on the X370 and B350 chipsets may not be compatible with the latest Ryzen 3000 at all.0007
True, AMD still promises to try to resolve the issue with the performance of Ryzen 3000 in the most popular X370 and B350 boards. Donnie Woligroski’s official comment on the matter reads as follows: « Our partners are looking at the most common X370 and B350 based boards in their lineup, and if they succeed, they will update their firmware with beta BIOS . »
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300-series chipsets are officially compatible with Ryzen 5000 processors (Update 4)
In addition to the six new entry-level Ryzen processors and the upcoming Ryzen 7 5800X3D, which will be released on April 20, AMD today announced official support for all Ryzen 5000 processors on motherboards with chipsets 300 series.
This topic has been hotly debated for several weeks now as some motherboard manufacturers have added support for Ryzen 5000 processors on A320 chipset models, «forgetting» X370 motherboards (with the exception of some ASRock models).
With the AGESA 22.214.171.124 update, all motherboards based on X370, B350 or A320 chipsets will receive support for all modern AMD processors, including Ryzen 7 5800X3D.
Here AMD decided to respond to the criticism of users. Recall that AGESA 126.96.36.199 is the central BIOS component of AM4 motherboards. And its motherboard manufacturers will embed in new versions. According to AMD, new BIOS versions can be expected in April-May. It all depends on the manufacturer and models of motherboards.
Meanwhile, ASUS and Gigabyte have clarified AMD processor support on their X570, B550, A520, X470, B450, X370, and A320 motherboards.
New processors and all models of the Ryzen 5000 and 4000 families are supported on all 500 and 400 motherboards from ASUS (AGESA 188.8.131.52b). For X370 and A320 motherboards, ASUS plans to add support on March 25 with AGESA 184.108.40.206. We asked ASUS about the B350 chipset, but haven’t heard back yet.
Gigabyte will also support the new processors on motherboards of the last two generations with X570, B550, A520, X470 and B450 chipsets. Interestingly, only the A320 is mentioned in the 300 lineup. The X370 and B350 chipsets are not named at all. But even on the A320 chipset, the Ryzen 5 5500 processor will not be supported due to «limitations».
We’ve received a response from ASUS regarding B350 motherboards. Most likely, all of them will also receive support on March 25 for the full Ryzen 5000 line. But only the Ryzen 5 5500 CPU will not be supported. Gigabyte also has limitations on it.
Meanwhile, ASRock has also announced BIOS updates for new processors (and the earlier Ryzen 5000) on current 500 and 400 series motherboards. That is, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, Ryzen 7 5700X, Ryzen 5 5600, Ryzen 5 5500 , Ryzen 5 4600G, Ryzen 5 4500 and Ryzen 5 4100 will work on ASRock motherboards with X570/B550/A520 and X470/B450 chipsets.
To get the latest BIOS, users should search for the motherboard model on the support page, then download the BIOS.
MSI has published details of processor support on motherboards. The manufacturer has already released BIOS updates for some models, for motherboards (series) that are not yet available, they will be released at the end of April.
Due to the complex product matrix and confusing support, the results of the SMU Checker utility do not guarantee that the system will boot. AGESA and PSP may still block the CPU. This error appears with the latest BIOS update for motherboards based on the A320/B350/X370 chipset. More details about the latest version of SMU Checker can be found here.
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