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AMD Threadripper Pro 5995WX and 5975WX Review: Sheer Threaded Dominance

Tom’s Hardware Verdict

The Threadripper Pro 5995WX and 5975WX deliver simply unmatched performance and capabilities courtesy of industry-leading core counts and connectivity that easily outstrips all competitors.

Pros
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    Unmatched performance in threaded work

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    Competitive single-thread performance

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    Industry-leading 128 lanes of PCIe 4.0

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    Octo-channel memory

Cons
  • Expensive chip pricing

  • Expensive motherboard pricing

  • Limited DIY motherboard options

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The new 64-core AMD Threadripper Pro 5995WX and 32-core Threadripper Pro 5975WX are finally available at retail, breaking free from the confines of pre-built OEM systems to contend for a spot on our list of best CPUs for workstations. They have a tough act to follow: AMD’s previous-gen Threadripper CPUs delivered a crushing blow to the entrenched Intel’s HEDT and workstation lineup, with the consumer models essentially muscling Team Blue out of the high end desktop (HEDT) market entirely while the Pro models relegated Intel to an also-ran in the workstation market.

But there’s a problem for enthusiasts — Intel abandoned the consumer-oriented high end desktop (HEDT) market after its crushing defeat three years ago, and now that AMD is the only game in town for HEDT chips, it’s also dropping the segment.

AMD says it will no longer make the more affordable non-Pro Threadripper models. Instead, we get the Threadripper Pro chips that are priced for professionals and come with all the trimmings to justify the price tag, like the Zen 3 architecture, clock speeds up to 4.5 GHz, 128 lanes of PCIe 4.0, and eight DDR4 memory channels that deliver unmatchable workstation performance.

AMD’s original Threadripper chips (and supporting motherboards) were geared for HEDT, meaning they came with higher core counts and access to more memory and PCIe connectivity than mainstream desktop PC chips. However, pricing was still mostly within reach for enthusiasts. After several generations, AMD released its Threadripper Pro models with twice the number of memory channels (eight) for professional users and unique motherboards, but the beefy chips carried the eye-watering pricing to match their incredible performance.

AMD then maintained two lineups, one for consumers and one for professional workstations, but they had different pricing tiers even though they were based on the same underlying architecture. AMD changes that with the Threadripper 5000 WX-series, unifying the standard HEDT models with the professional lineup, meaning there’s now only one line of chips and motherboards for both OEM workstations and DIYers — Threadripper Pro and the WRX80 platform. 

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AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000 WX-Series Specifications
Row 0 — Cell 0 Cores / Threads MSRP/SEP Base / Boost (GHz) L3 Cache (MB) TDP PCIe
Threadripper Pro 5995WX 64 / 128 $6,499 2. 7 / 4.5 256 (8CCD + I/OD) 280W 128
Threadripper Pro 5975WX 32 / 64 $3,299 3.6 / 4.5 128 (4CCD + I/OD) 280W 128
Threadripper Pro 5965WX 24 / 48 $2,399 3.8 / 4.5 128 (4CCD + I/OD) 280W 128
Threadripper 5955WX 16 / 32 OEM-only 4.0 / 4.5 64 280W 128
Threadripper Pro 5945WX 12 / 24 OEM-only 4. 1 / 4.5 64 280W 128

The problem is AMD has left the two lower-end 12- and 16-core Pro models as OEM-only, so they won’t come to retail. That means entry-level pricing for Threadripper Pro starts at $2,399 for a 24-core 5965WX — and that’s before you purchase the requisite super-pricey motherboard (more below) and enough memory to fill eight channels. You’ll pay $3,299 to step up to the 32-core Threadripper Pro 5975WX, and $6,499 for the 64-core 5995WX, both representing big markups over the prior-gen chips.

It does make some sense for AMD to keep the 12- and 16-core models as OEM only, given that Ryzen 5000 and the soon-to-be-launched Zen 4 Ryzen 7000 mainstream platforms already support up to 16 cores. However, those platforms don’t have quad-or octo-channel memory or more than 20 PCIe lanes, a common reason for enthusiasts to step up to HEDT. Unlike the previous-gen Pro chips, all of the Threadripper Pro 5000 WX chips do support core and memory overclocking, though. That’s a slight consolation prize, but only a few motherboards support the feature.

All of this means that AMD positions the Threadripper Pro chips squarely for the workstation market, and there they deliver. Like its predecessor, the 64-core Threadripper Pro 5995WX is a specialized beast that delivers unbeatable performance in workloads that can leverage parallelism. That said, some applications simply don’t benefit from 64 cores, so you should know your workload before you pull the trigger. However, you won’t find this many cores or PCIe lanes in a single-socket Intel workstation — the Intel Xeon W-3300 lineup is outclassed with its maximum of 38 cores and 64 PCIe lanes from a single chip. You’ll have to pay a heart-stopping $6,499 for the retail 5995WX, though.

The $3,299 32-core Threadripper Pro 5975WX is the more rational choice for most professionals, again delivering stellar performance while offering all of the connectivity of its more expensive counterpart. This chip offers the lion’s share of the 5995WX’s performance and isn’t as subject to finicky performance in some workloads.

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We put both of these chips through a test suite of professional-class applications, like SPECworkstation and SPECviewperf, along with our standard application test suite. And yes, we put the chips through our gaming test suite to see how they fare.

Spoiler alert: They match AMD’s fastest standard gaming chips. 

Threadripper Pro 5995WX and 5975WX Specifications and Pricing

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AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000 WX-Series Specifications
Row 0 — Cell 0 Cores / Threads MSRP/SEP Base / Boost (GHz) L3 Cache (MB) TDP PCIe Memory
Threadripper Pro 5995WX 64 / 128 $6,499 2. 7 / 4.5 256 280W 128 Eight-Channel DDR4-3200
Xeon W-3375 38 / 76 $4,499 2.5 / 4.0 57 270W 64 Eight-Channel DDR4-3200
Threadripper Pro 3995WX 64 / 128 $5,489 2.7 / 4.2 256 280W 128 Eight-Channel DDR4-3200
Threadripper 3990X 64 / 128 $3,990 2.9 / 4.3 256 280W 72 Quad DDR4-3200
Threadripper Pro 5975WX 32 / 64 $3,299 3. 6 / 4.5 128 280W 128 Eight-Channel DDR4-3200
Xeon W-3365 32 / 64 $3,499 2.7 / 4.0 48 270W 64 Eight-Channel DDR4-3200
Threadripper Pro 3975WX 32 / 64 $2,749 3.5 / 4.2 128 280W 128 Eight-Channel DDR4-3200
Threadripper 3970X 32 / 64 $1,999 3.7 / 4.5 128 280W 64 Quad DDR4-3200
Threadripper Pro 5965WX 24 / 48 $2,399 3. 8 / 4.5 128 280W 128 Eight-Channel DDR4-3200
Xeon W-3345 24 / 48 $2,499 3.0 / 4.0 36 250W 64 Eight-Channel DDR4-3200
Threadripper 3960X 24 / 48 $1,399 3.8 / 4.5 128 280W 64 Quad DDR4-3200

Threadripper Pro chips come with the ‘WX’ suffix to denote they are designed for the workstation market. AMD didn’t introduce more cores with the two top-end models, but they’re faster due to the step up from the Zen 2 architecture to Zen 3. 

AMD has increased prices on the 64-core model by $1,000 and bumped up the 32-core chip by $550. All retail Threadripper Pro models have a top dual-core clock speed of 4.5 GHz, a generational increase of 300 MHz for the 5955WX and 5975WX. The 24-core 3975WX didn’t have a previous-gen Pro counterpart, but its clock speeds are the same as the consumer 3960X. We also see a 100 MHz improvement to the base clock speed on all models except the 64-core, 128-thread Threadripper Pro 5995WX.

The Threadripper Pro chips have the same 280W TDP envelope as the previous-gen chips. Notably, the 280W limit is likely imposed by the sWRX80 socket design, so AMD doesn’t have much room to increase frequencies for the highest-end part. As we’ve seen in previous tests, the core-heavy Threadripper models reach peak power consumption long before all of the cores are fully saturated, but the support for overclocking/PBO will help break those bonds. 

Threadripper Pro has 128 PCIe 4.0 lanes (the CPU exposes 120 lanes to the user) compared to Intel’s 64 lanes, an advantage because most workstations have plenty of additives, like GPU accelerators, NVMe storage, and high-speed NICs.

Except for the quad-channel Ryzen Threadripper 3000 chips, all of the above AMD and Intel processors support eight channels of DDR4-3200 ECC memory. Threadripper Pro supports a maximum of 2TB of memory in UDIMM, RDIMM, and LRDIMM flavors, while Xeon W-3300 supports up to 4TB. That’s not to mention that AMD’s core/thread counts weigh in at 64/128 compared to Intel’s 38/76. 

As you can see, AMD slightly undercuts Intel’s suggested pricing for the 24- and 32-core models, but the flagship 64-core 5995WX costs $2000 more than the highest-end 38-core Xeon W-3375.

The Threadripper Pro chips drop into single-socket WRX80 motherboards, so existing WRX80 motherboards support the 5000 series chips after a BIOS update. The LGA4094 socket (aka Socket sWRX8) is physically identical to the previous-gen Threadripper consumer and EPYC data center platforms, so coolers are also compatible. However, the socket features different pin assignments: AMD enabled some pins to support more memory channels and PCIe lanes than are available on the old Threadripper consumer chips and disabled certain pins used to support multiple sockets on EPYC platforms.  

Here’s how Threadripper has progressed over the years:

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Row 0 — Cell 0 Codename Year Architecture Socket Chipset Models
Ryzen Threadripper 1000 Series Whitehaven 2017 Zen 1 SP3r2 / TR4 X399 1950X / 1920X / 1900X
Ryzen Threadripper 2000 Series Colfax 2018 Zen+ SP3r2 / TR4 X399 2990WX / 2970WX / 2950X / 2920X
Ryzen Threadripper 3000 Series Castle Peak 2020 Zen 2 sTRX4 TRX40 3990X / 3970X / 3960X
Ryzen Threadripper Pro 3000WX Series Castle Peak WS 2021 Zen 2 sWRX8 WRX80 3995WX / 3975WX / 3955WX / 3945WX
Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000WX Series Chagall WS 2022 Zen 3 sWRX8 WRX80 5995WX / 5975WX / 5965WX / 5955WX / 5945WX

AMD Threadripper WRX80 Motherboards

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WRX80 Motherboards (Socket sWRX8)
Motherboard Price
MSI WS WRX80 Not Available
Supermicro M12SWA-TF ~$700
GIGABYTE WRX80 SU8 IPMI ~$1,300
GIGABYTE MC62-G41 Not Available
ASUS Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI ~$1,000
ASRock WRX80 Creator ~$900

It isn’t all crimson and roses, though. The X399 platform was somewhat reasonably priced given its feature set, with most motherboards starting at around $350 (there was even a $240 model). Unfortunately, as you can see in the above table, we can’t expect that kind of pricing with WRX80 motherboards — there’s a limited number of WRX80 motherboards available to DIYers, and they start at $700. That isn’t surprising given the copious slathering of cost-additive PCIe 4.0 lanes and the necessary retimers. WRX80 prices top out at $1,300, but two of the motherboards on AMD’s list aren’t available yet.

You’ll also need to be careful with motherboard selection — many vendors designed their motherboards around the previous-gen Threadripper Pro family, which wasn’t overclockable. As such, the Supermicro and ASUS WRX80 motherboards don’t support overclocking. Given the relatively poor selection, high pricing, and general unavailability of many models, AMD and the motherboard makers have their work cut out for them to make this platform more accessible to DIYers.

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Threadripper Pro is based on a lightly-modified EPYC Milan design, so they move up from Zen 2 to the Zen 3 architecture. The Threadripper Pro chips still top out at an incredible 256MB of L3 cache on the highest-end models, but the cache is now a contiguous 32MB block for each eight-core cluster, improving performance over the prior gen. In contrast, Xeon W-3300 tops out at a paltry 57MB. The chips also bear all of the other benefits of Zen 3, like a 19% increase in instruction per cycle (IPC) throughput.

The chips support AMD’s Pro Security, Manageability, and Business Ready suites (18-month software stability, 2-year chip availability), an area where Intel’s competing chips are lacking. AMD’s Pro Security suite includes the same Secure Architecture, Memory Guard (memory encryption with a slight performance penalty), and Secure Processor features as the prior-gen Threadripper Pro models, but AMD added Shadow Stack, a mechanism to counter control flow attacks. In contrast, Intel’s Xeon W-3300 series doesn’t have an enterprise-class feature set.

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Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000 CPUs Will Hit The DIY Market Later This Year

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AMD is ramping up the distribution of its Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000 WX-series processors that will soon vie for a spot on our list of best CPUs for workstations. In July, AMD said that these Zen 3 processors will become more widely available, expanding to «leading system integrators worldwide. » However, PC DIY enthusiasts longing to put together a Threadripper Pro 5000 build will have to wait until sometime later in the year for the opportunity – when processors and motherboards will debut in the components market.

It felt like a rather long wait for the Ryzen Threadripper PRO 5000WX CPUs to arrive, and we haven’t seen a flood of buying options. As long-awaited successors to the Threadripper Pro 3000 series (Zen 2), the AMD announced the new series in March but debuted with a lone partner in early May. The Lenovo P620 Tower Workstation PC went on sale with Threadripper Pro 5000WX CPUs in May – about two months late.

A fortnight ago, Dell joined in the AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000 WX-series party with the announcement of its new Precision 7865 workstation systems. As with the Lenovo system, the Precision 7865 was configurable with vast amounts of RAM and fast storage to make up for the 64C/128T of compute these Threadrippers can provide.

Suppose you want some more details to chew over concerning the architecture, tech specs, and performance of the AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000 WX-Series. In that case, we recommend you read through our detailed article that coincided with the March 8 launch. But since you are here, a summary of the charms of these computing behemoths includes the following bullet points:

  • Up to 64 cores and 128 threads
  • Zen 3 cores for the leadership IPC from AMD
  • Up to 4.5 GHz boost clocks
  • 8-channel UDIMM and RDIMM support
  • 256MB L3 cache
  • Support for up to 128 PCIe 4.0 lanes
  • AMD Shadow Stack security
  • ISV software collaboration for optimized pro apps
  • Strong performance / price balance and relative power efficiency

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AMD says that the same processors heading to system integrators in July will become available in the DIY market later in the year. DIY enthusiasts are likely to appreciate the CPU overclocking and memory overclocking to squeeze the best out of their hand-crafted setups.

Interestingly, we have spotted some discrete CPU sales worldwide, in locations such as Canada, the UK , France, and Holland. As it is closest to the US, we have shoehorned the Canadian prices (converted to USD) into the product table.

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CORES / THREADS FREQUENCY (BOOST* / BASE)

TDP

Indicative price

AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 5995WX

64 / 128

UP TO 4.5 / 2.7 GHz 280W $6,915

AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 5975WX

32 / 64

UP TO 4.5 / 3.6 GHz

280W

$3,518

AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 5965WX

24 / 48

UP TO 4.5 / 3.8 GHz

280W

$2,537

With multiple retailers already listing these SKUs, it looks like «later this year» could be earlier than that phraseology usually indicates. In the meantime, AMD has its Ryzen 7000 processors coming to market in Fall. 

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At last night’s «together we advance_PCs» event, where AMD unveiled the Ryzen 7000 series of desktop processors, some details about the company’s future plans were revealed. In particular, the Zen 5 architecture following Zen 4 will hit the market in 2024. nine0007

As for the closer prospects, AMD’s next big processor announcement is scheduled for next year — it is at the beginning of next year that the company intends to introduce the Ryzen 7000 mobile processor family based on the Zen 4 microarchitecture. In addition, AMD CTO Mark Papermaster (Mark Papermaster) during his speech promised that in the future, Ryzen 7000 desktop processors with an additional 3D cache chip (V-Cache), similar to the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, will also see the light. However, he refused to name specific dates, limiting himself to the phrase «in the future.» nine0007

But the timing of the appearance of server variants of Zen 4 with 3D V-Cache technology was outlined with more certainty — such processors will appear in early 2023. At the same time, EPYC Bergamo processors with Zen 4c cores designed for high-density servers will also have to come out — these chips, we recall, will receive up to 128 cores, while conventional EPYC Genoa with the traditional Zen 4 architecture will be limited to 96 cores.

AMD also mentioned the Ryzen Threadripper family of processors. According to David McAfee, Vice President and General Manager of Customer Channels, AMD is very carefully considering the possibility of releasing Ryzen Threadripper processors based on the Zen 4 architecture. However, due to changes in demand patterns and supply chains, we can only talk about » nine0022 without the maximum configurations of the Threadripper Pro type, but with a wider model range.”

In addition, David McAfee promised that the Ryzen 7000 desktop processor family will expand beyond just four models. Additional processor models covering a wider range of price points will be released early next year.

As for the more distant prospects, the Zen 5 architecture following Zen 4 is planned by AMD for the end of 2024, processors based on it will be produced using the 4nm process technology. According to Papermaster, Zen 5 is « complete redesign of the core with further optimizations for AI tasks .

Along the way, AMD representatives promised that the new Socket AM5 platform, released along with the Ryzen 7000 processors, will remain relevant until at least 2025. And this means that Socket AM5 motherboards will support not only Ryzen 7000, but also future Ryzen processors built on the Zen 5 architecture.

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