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» The award will beWe benchmark the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2: solid CPU gains, impressive GPU upgrade
Qualcomm unveiled the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 last month and the first phones with it are starting to come out.
While the vivo X90 Pro+ was the first to be announced, we don’t have a unit to test. But we do have an iQOO 11, and we spent quite some time putting it through its paces.
Benchmarks of the new chip have been leaking for a while now; however, you can never be sure if there isn’t anything shady going on with those. With the iQOO 11 on hand, we have a market-ready device that we know is on the level.
Our unit has 16GB of RAM and 256GB storage, which gives the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 a great opportunity to shine. And, boy, does it shine! Keep in mind that this is a generational improvement, less so if you include the 8+ Gen 1 (which we did), and it still uses the TSMC N4 node. What Qualcomm has achieved is quite impressive.
Before proceeding to the charts, allow us to introduce the chip in more detail. The Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 uses a mix of ARM cores. The Cortex-X3 is the leader of the pack and based on official data, it should be 25% faster than the Cortex-X2 used in the Gen 1 chips.
That is the guideline for single-threaded performance.
Then there is a mix of four mid-sized cores. Two are Cortex-A715, which should be 20% faster than the older A710 core. The Gen 2 chip also has two of those A710 cores, so multi-threaded performance is harder to estimate. This is based on data from ARM, Qualcomm says that the CPU is 35% faster overall (compared to the original 8 Gen 1 CPU) and 40% more efficient (which we are not testing today).
Here is a summary of the chipsets we are looking at today:
| Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 | Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 | Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 | |
| Node | Samsung 4LPX | TSMC N4 | TSMC N4 |
| CPU (Prime) | 1x Cortex-X2 @ 3.0GHz | 1x Cortex-X2 @ 3.2GHz | 1x Cortex-X3 @ 3.2GHz |
| CPU (Mid) | 3x Cortex-A710 @ 2. 5GHz |
3x Cortex-A710 @ 2.75GHz | 2x Cortex-A715 @ 2.8GHz |
| CPU (Mid 2) | — | — | 2x Cortex-A710 @ 2.8GHz |
| CPU (Small) | 4x Cortex-A510 @ 1.8GHz | 4x Cortex-A510 @ 2.0GHz | 3x Cortex-A510 @ 2.0 GHz |
| GPU | Adreno 730 @ 818MHz | Adreno 730 @ 900MHz | Adreno 740 @ 680MHz |
| System cache | 6MB | 6MB | 8MB |
| RAM | LPDDR5 | LPDDR5 | LPDDR5X |
| Storage | UFS 3.1 | UFS 3.1 | UFS 4.0 |
The Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 also uses the new Adreno 740 GPU.
Qualcomm is secretive about the hardware specifics, but there must have been a major change. One interesting thing to note is that the 740 runs at lower clock speeds than the 730 in the Gen 1 chips. Even so, Qualcomm says that the new GPU is 25% faster than its predecessor (and 45% more efficient).
If anything, Qualcomm was conservative with its GPU claims – we’re seeing much larger speed ups even over the Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1, which itself was a modest improvement over the original chip from the beginning of this year (10% faster). The focus of the Plus chip was power efficiency. And once that was achieved, Qualcomm could turn its attention to making things faster.
We will start with AnTuTu, which is a full system benchmark, to try and get a sense of the overall improvement brought on by Gen 2. This isn’t an entirely apples to apples comparison, as the Gen 1 chips only support LPDDR5 RAM and UFS 3.1 storage. The Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, however, supports the faster LPDDR5X DRAM and UFS 4.
0 storage, and the iQOO 11 makes full use of them.
AnTuTu 9
Higher is better
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| Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 |
1281665
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| Highest Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
1103188
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| Highest Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
1056488
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| Average Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
982268
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| Average Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
975803
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This is important to keep in mind – the chipset alone doesn’t determine real-life performance. By adding support for new, faster memory formats, Qualcomm has enabled makers to build faster phones.
Now, we can get a closer look at how the individual components perform.
We start with Geekbench 5, which measures both single and multi-threaded performance. Remember, the target for single-core improvement is 25% over the Cortex-X2 at the same node and same clock speed (i.e. over the implementation seen in the 8+ Gen 1).
The chipset doesn’t quite hit that mark, but we’re not going to scoff at an 18% improvement over the 8+ Gen 1. The gap to the 8 Gen 1 chip is even wider, 26%, though that one could only run its prime core at 3.0GHz, so no surprise there. But the 8+ Gen 1 and 8 Gen 2 cores are clocked the same, so the speedup comes from the new architecture.
GeekBench 5 (single-core)
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| Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 |
1479
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| Highest Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
1345
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| Average Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
1256
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| Highest Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
1246
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| Average Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
1179
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Multi-threaded workloads show a similar improvement of 22% over the 8+ Gen 1; the gap to the original Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 is even wider with a 33% speed up.
GeekBench 5 (multi-core)
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| Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 |
4803
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| Highest Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
4349
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| Average Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
3924
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| Highest Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
3855
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| Average Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
3618
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The CPU improvements are solid, if perhaps not groundbreaking. Qualcomm’s hands are tied here as it uses tweaked Cortex CPU cores from ARM. Maybe things will be different when the Nuvia team delivers a mobile CPU design, but this is the reality we have for 2023.
The Adreno GPUs are all Qualcomm, though, and they do surpass the +25% target in several tests.
Before we get to that, we need to talk about resolution and frame rate. The iQOO 11 comes with a 1,440 x 3,200px display with up to 120Hz refresh rate (it’s an LTPO4 panel).
However, plenty of phones with Gen 1 chips use FHD+ class displays. To keep the playing field level, we tried two different things: one, set the iQOO 11 to FHD+ resolution and two, look at offscreen results (where physical resolution doesn’t matter).
The first approach has some issues, namely GFXBench Manhattan ES 3.0 hit the 120fps cap, so the GPU was actually held back by the display. We didn’t run older GFXBench tests as they would have encountered the same issue.
This is a good thing – if this was a game, you would have gotten a stable 120fps playthrough. A few devices scored higher — gaming phones like Asus ROG Phone 6 Pro and Red Magic 7, which have 165Hz screens. This means that the averages here are misleading since several results are skewed by the display fps cap. Offscreen tests sidestep this issue, but there is another solution — use a more demanding benchmark that won’t hit the display fps cap.
GFX Manhattan ES 3.0 (onscreen)
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| Highest Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
163
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| Highest Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
161
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| Average Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
123
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| Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 (fps cap!) |
120
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| Average Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
109
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Let’s stick to FHD+ mode for a bit longer since we know there are plenty of Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 phones on the way with FHD+ displays. We’re only looking at onscreen tests here.
The GFXBench Aztec tests shows around a 50% improvement using both the OpenGL ES backend and the newer Vulkan backend.
The phone can just about deliver 90fps gameplay at this resolution. The Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 makes high refresh rate/frame rate gaming possible at FHD+, while the Gen 1 chips make you choose between high resolution and framerate. Naturally, benchmarks are more demanding than real games, so we should see a large number of titles playable at 90fps and even 120fps with the Gen 2.
GFX Aztek ES 3.1 High (onscreen)
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| Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 |
89
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| Highest Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
67
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| Average Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
61
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| Highest Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
61
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| Average Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
57
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GFX Aztek Vulkan High (onscreen)
Higher is better
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| Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 |
91
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| Highest Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
69
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| Highest Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
64
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| Average Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
61
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| Average Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
61
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Alright, now let’s look at raw GPU performance by switching over to offscreen tests.
These are standardized to a 16:9 aspect ratio (at either 1080p or 1440p) and avoid physical limitations like the display’s refresh rate.
Starting with Aztec at 1440p, we again see an improvement in performance of around 50%. The gap between Vulkan and OpenGL ES is smaller than it was on the Gen 1 chips, but Vulkan still has a slight edge.
GFX Aztek ES 3.1 High (offscreen 1440p)
Higher is better
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| Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 |
62
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| Highest Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
46
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| Average Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
43
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| Highest Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
43
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| Average Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
40
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GFX Aztek Vulkan High (offscreen 1440p)
Higher is better
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| Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 |
69
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| Highest Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
52
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| Highest Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
48
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| Average Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
46
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| Average Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
44
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3DMark’s Wild Live (Vulkan, 1440p) shows a smaller improvement, around 30%.
Still, Qualcomm was only promising a 25% increase, so the Snapdragon beats expectations once again.
3DMark Wild Life Vulkan 1.1 (offscreen 1440p)
Higher is better
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Value
| Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 |
12738
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| Highest Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
10533
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| Highest Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
10118
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| Average Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
9978
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| Average Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
9642
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Moving over to 1080p tests like Car Chase and Manhattan, the improvements here are smaller. These are fairly old and may not be stressing the GPU sufficiently, so the benchmark is running into other bottlenecks.
GFX Car Chase ES 3.1 (offscreen 1080p)
Higher is better
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Value
| Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 |
128
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| Highest Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
104
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| Average Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
97
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| Highest Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
97
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| Average Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
92
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GFX Manhattan ES 3.1 (offscreen 1080p)
Higher is better
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| Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 |
222
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| Highest Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
187
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| Highest Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
175
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| Average Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 |
164
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| Average Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 |
157
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Conclusion
The new Adreno 740 GPU inside the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is truly impressive, and we haven’t even tested what it can do with ray tracing.
The new chipset will enable high frame rate gaming in more titles than is currently possible, and it will allow developers to enable higher-quality graphic settings at the same time.
Something we didn’t look at today is sustained performance – that is something that varies from phone to phone. For the iQOO 11 in particular, our upcoming review will have information on that as well as other interesting performance metrics (like testing the UFS 4.0 storage).
There is one last thing to address, Qualcomm apparently has an upgraded version of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2. This is just a rumor for now, Ice Universe claims that the Prime core runs at 3.36GHz (up from 3.2GHz) and that the GPU is at 719MHz (Up from 680MHz). Qualcomm has not officially confirmed the existence, but there are clues that suggest that the SM8550-AC is real, so we end this post with a “to be continued”.
What processor and RAM do I need to play games with NVIDIA RTX 3070 graphics card
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Each of us, before buying certain components, prefers to evaluate their quality and performance level by reading a couple of professional reviews about them.
Recently, a good friend of mine asked me to assemble a system unit for him from new components he had just bought. They included a GeForce RTX 3070 video card. Assembly, configuration and system stability testing were successful, and it was time to test the new computer in games. I told a friend that I would conduct a couple of tests in games and the system unit can be taken away. He replied that he was looking forward to being able to play his favorite game with a normal average FPS (frames per second), which would finally be higher than the frequency of his monitor. After these words, I asked questions on the topic of «expectations and reality.» Will the FPS in games be what the owner of the new «system unit» expects to see after studying professional reviews of the RTX 3070 video card? If disappointment awaits him, will it be significant or subtle and insignificant?
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Today, the number of frames in games largely depends on the video card.
The role of other components, such as the processor, RAM and storage, is less significant, but it is still there! Almost all professional reviews of video cards use open stands on top-end components — these are flagship processors and RAM with the maximum frequency. In addition, video cards cool better on open stands, which means they have a higher boost. For the absolute majority of gamers, system units are based on average processors and fairly average memory. Today’s mass «people’s» choices are Intel Core i5-10400F, Ryzen 3600 and «RAM» with a frequency of about 3600 MHz. Someone may argue that if there was money for the RTX 3070, then there will be money for a normal processor with memory! By no means! Many of us save money to buy a video card gradually or buy it on a credit card, paying for it gradually. Of course, today the conditions for purchasing video cards have changed significantly.
Today I will show the test of the assembled system in several games. There are only two of them, but this is enough to perceive the whole picture.
System:
— AMD Ryzen 7 processor 3700
— Thermalright ARO-M14 cooler
— Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR4 32Gb 3200MHz RAM (two dual rank modules)
— Samsung EVO 50 system
— SSD MG0 90 system and SAMSUNG 860 EVO 1TB (games)
— MSI GeForce RTX 3070 GAMING X TRIO
9 graphics card0005 — ATX case. Four 120 mm 1200 rpm fans Three for blowing (1×140 mm and 2×120 mm)
— Windows 10 and video card driver 461.40
The processor and video card will not overclock and will work in stock. Why? Firstly, for the purity of the experiment, I need «reference» values on this system. Secondly, overclocking on each system is individual and does not reflect the overall picture. The goal is to get the general mass result that most gamers expect, and not the individual. Thirdly, not as many people overclock their processors as it seems to us here. And fourthly, this processor in stock produces the same amount of FPS in games as when overclocked to 4200-4300 MHz.
Higher overclocking is already limited by the air cooling system (though not the cheapest). In addition, not all ZEN2 overclock to any significant extent (processors from the first batch overclocked poorly). As for the fact that the processor is not a «popular» Ryzen 5 3600, it seems to me that this will not significantly affect the results. The same applies to video cards. But the RAM will be overclocked to 3600 MHz (DCR 3600 MHz fast). Most gamers (price / performance) who are not overclockers try to choose modules with such a frequency today. On Intel, they put the XMP profile, and on AMD systems, DRAM Calculator for Ryzen comes to their aid, making overclocking accessible to everyone. The 32 GB capacity will not play any role in the tests, and dual-ranking will probably add a few frames.
I will test the video card in just two games (the choice was limited by time and availability of games). I hope that this will be quite enough to clarify the overall picture. The first will be Shadow of the Tomb Raider , whose built-in test gives detailed information and therefore is always used by professional reviewers.
The second game will be Metro Exodus , which loads even top-end video cards well. Testing will take place in the resolutions most used by gamers 1920×1080 and 2560×1440 pixels. I will compare the results obtained with the average results for this video card model, taken from several professional reviews on popular resources on the Internet.
So, test in Shadow of the Tomb Raider .
Resolution 1920×1080 and 2560×1440. DX12. Settings «maximum», without «rays».
At the same time, the processor warmed up only to 66 degrees, and the video card to 62 degrees. The video card fans spin up to 1345 rpm.
Metro Exodus.
Resolution 1920×1080 and 2560×1440. DX12. Extreme settings.
It remains to compare the results with those from professional reviews.
In professional reviews, as a rule, they use processors of the i7-10900k and Ryzen 5800 levels, with 4000+ MHz and 3800 MHz memory, respectively.
As you can see, at 1080p the difference between the mid-budget assembly and the assembly on the «top» components is no more than 10%. For those for whom it is significant, it may make sense to think about buying a more productive processor and RAM. It seems to me that the percentage of such users will be extremely small. The rest can make up the difference by overclocking a video card (if they have the skills) or by buying a monitor with a resolution of 1440p with the money saved when buying less productive CPUs and RAM. Or just ignore the difference. For those who already have a so-called «2K» monitor, there is currently no need to invest in an expensive processor and RAM. After all, their “potential” may not be revealed before they become obsolete, since mass platforms based on DDR5 are just around the corner.
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TOP 5 processors for the GTX 1060 — rating of processors that will reveal the video card First you need to decide which processor such a discrete is best suited for.
Here are 5 of the coolest «engines» from Intel for it. Comparison of key characteristics will help you find the right model.
i3-8100
The king of low cost builds in the eighth generation. The processor performs well in all modern games, and therefore is one of the best solutions for desktop assemblies in conjunction with the GTX 1060. It is this option that is advised as an inexpensive “engine” that reveals such a video card.
It is worth noting that the processor multiplier is not unlocked, so overclocking it will not work. However, gamers speak of it very flatteringly.
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i5-7500
A worthy representative of the Kaby Lake line in the recent past was considered a pre-top solution. This model is recommended as one of the best options for the GTX 1060. Its parameters allow you to fully reveal the video card.
Advantages:
- High performance and stable operation.
It has four cores that operate at a frequency of 3.4 GHz. Like the previous version in the ranking, the processor boasts a six-megabyte third-level cache. - Low power consumption and heat dissipation. This will help save money: no additional cooling system is needed, you can use the «native» cooler.
- Supports as much as 64 gigabytes of RAM, which makes it possible to work for a long time on the same processor.
- Supports 4K display even on integrated graphics. In addition, you can connect three monitors: it will be easier to work with graphics programs.
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i5-7640X
This is already the second option in the list of models for which the GeForce GTX 1060, which belongs to the 7th generation, is suitable. It is also quad-core, but, compared to the previous processor from the rating, it works faster. Here the cores «work» at a frequency of 4000 MHz.
Features:
- 112W TDP. This is enough to not buy more fans.
- Unlocked multiplier: the user can overclock the processor, which will give a performance boost.
Recommendation : If you need to overclock the device, you should still stock up on additional cooling.
- In conjunction with the GTX 1060 provides a stable high FPS. Judging by the reviews, in comparison with the i5 7600K, this option wins without a fight.
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i5-8600
The six-core, six-thread favorite of the public, in fact, is a modern analogue of the Core i7 Kaby Lake. This is a good option that is able to reveal the GeForce GTX 1060. One of the best processors in the ranking makes it attractive characteristics.
Note : The TDP declared by the manufacturer is 65 degrees, so, in principle, it is not necessary to buy coolers.
However, users are still advised to stock up on additional cooling if you need to build a PC to work with resource-intensive programs and games.
Attractive parameters:
- Usually the cores operate at a frequency of 3.1 GHz, which is already good. And in the «Turbo» mode, this figure rises to 4.3 GHz. Excellent performance in games without “freezes” and other similar irritants (especially if you take the GTX 1060 under it) is guaranteed.
- Supports Hyper-Threading, another nice feature. The implementation of simultaneous multithreading allows the processor to quickly process many operations in demanding open-world games, demonstrate stable operation when using resource-intensive professional software, whether it is video processing or studio-level sound recording.
- Allows DDR4 RAM to work in dual-channel mode, which also adds points to performance.
Disadvantage — not designed for overclocking.
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i5-8600K
Top «coffee» i5.
Six-core (3.6 GHz) and six-thread monster. Powerful, fast, practically not heated — all this is about him. Whatever task the user assigns to this processor, he will cope with a bang.
Why I got into the rating:
1. Paired with a 6 GB GTX 1060, this percentage “drags” all modern games on the ultra preset, demonstrating an FPS of at least the coveted 60 frames even without overclocking.
2. It has an unlocked multiplier, so you can add speed to it.
3. Declared power TDP 95 W — the stock fan copes with temperature in most cases.
Recommendation : If the user still plans to overclock the processor, it is better to stock up on additional cooling.
4. Uses less power thanks to SpeedStep and Idle States technology.
5. Virus free: protected by Execute Disable Bit, Intel SGX and Intel Boot Guard.
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What kind of processor is needed for the GTX 1060? The i5-8600K is recommended for those who are not constrained in their means.