Nvidia GTX 1070 Ti: Power Consumption
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Power Consumption
GeForce GTX 1070 Ti FE’s power consumption lands where we’d expect, given its power target. That means it operates at the same level as the slightly larger GeForce GTX 1080 FE.
At stock settings, MSI’s GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Titanium 8G behaves in a similarly boring fashion, ending up just a tad above its 180W power target. The tiny sliver above this card’s TDP is almost certainly attributable to those 10cm fans and a somewhat more involved circuit layout.
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What really makes a difference is a power target ceiling of 133% (compared to Nvidia’s default 120%). Using the highest possible overclock, MSI’s card maxes out at 233W, just under its 239W ceiling. At that point, voltage becomes the limiting factor. Not to spoil our overclocking findings, but it really doesn’t matter if you dial in a 100% fan speed and 2.1 GHz or the standard fan curve and 2050 MHz.
The 290W peak that we observed isn’t a problem in practice. Today’s PSUs employ secondary sides with low-impedance capacitors that can easily compensate for or smooth over brief spikes like these. Let this be a warning if you’re still using an old power supply, though: make sure it can handle modern graphics cards before upgrading.
Nvidia and, by extension, MSI have taken so much of the load off of the motherboard’s PCIe slot that it’s now pointless to look at each rail’s load to make sure it’s in-compliance. Needless to say, GeForce GTX 1070 Ti passes with flying colors.
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Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 Ti Folding@Home Review
In an effort to make as much use of the colder months in New England as I can, I’m running tons of Stanford University’s Folding@Home on my computer to do charitable science for disease research while heating my house. In the last article, I reviewed a slightly older AMD card, the RX 480, to determine its performance and efficiency running Folding@Home. Today, I’ll be taking a look at one of the favorite cards from Nvidia for both folding and gaming: The 1070 Ti.
The GeForce GTX 1070 Ti was released in November 2017, and sits between the 1070 and 1080 in terms of raw performance. As of February 2019, the 1070 Ti can be for a deep discount on the used market, now that the RTX 20xx series cards have been released. I got my Asus version on eBay for $250.
Based on Nvidia’s 14nm Pascal architecture, the 1070 Ti has 2432 CUDA cores and 8 GB of GDDR5 memory, with a memory bandwidth of 256 GB/s. The base clock rate of the GPU is 1607 MHz, although the cards automatically boost well past the advertised boost clock of 1683 Mhz. Thermal Design Power (TDP) is 180 Watts.
The 3rd party Asus card I got is nothing special. It appears to be a dual-slot reference design, and uses a blower cooler to exhaust hot air out the back of the case. It requires one supplemental 8-pin PCI-E Power connection.
ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 Ti
One thing I will note about this card is it’s length. At 10.5 inches (which is similar to many NVidia high-end cards), it can be a bit problematic to fit in some cases. I have a Raidmax Sagitta mid-tower case from way back in 2006, and it fits, but barely. I had the same problem with the EVGA GeForce 1070 I reviewed earlier.
ASUS GTX 1070 Ti – Installed.
Test Environment
Testing was done in Windows 10 on my AMD FX-based system, which is old but holds pretty well, all things considered. You can read more on that here. The system was built for both performance and efficiency, using AMD’s 8320e processor (a bit less power hungry than the other 8-core FX processors), a Seasonic 650 80+ Gold Power Supply, and 8 GB of low voltage DDR3 memory. The real key here, since I take all my power measurements at the wall with a P3 Kill-A-Watt meter, is that the system is the same for all of my tests.
The Folding@Home Client version is 7.5.1, running a single GPU slot with the following settings:
GPU Slot Options for Maximum PPD
These settings tend to result in a slighter higher points per day (PPD), because they request large, advanced work units from Stanford.
Initial Test Results
Initial testing was done on one of the oldest drivers I could find to support the 1070 Ti (driver version 388.13). The thought here was that older drivers would have less gaming optimizations, which tend to hurt performance for compute jobs (unlike AMD, Nvidia doesn’t include a compute mode in their graphics driver settings).
Unfortunately, the best Nvidia driver for the non-Ti GTX 10xx cards (372.90) doesn’t work with the 1070 Ti, because the Ti version came out a few months later than the original cards. So, I was stuck with version 388.13.
Nvidia GTX 1070 Ti Monitoring – Baseline Clocks
I ran F@H for three days using the stock clock rate of 1823 MHz core, with the memory at 3802 MHz. Similar to what I found when testing the 1070, Folding@Home does not trigger the card to go into the high power (max performance) P0 state. Instead, it is stuck in the power-saving P2 state, so the core and memory clocks do not boost.
The PPD average for three days when folding at this rate was 632,380 PPD. Checking the Kill-A-Watt meter over the course of those days showed an approximate average system power consumption of 220 watts. Interestingly, this is less power draw than the GTX 1070 (which used 227 watts, although that was with overclocking + the more efficient 372.90 driver). The PPD average was also less than the GTX 1070, which had done about 640,000 PPD. Initial efficiency, in PPD/Watt, was thus 2875 (compared to the GTX 1070’s 2820 PPD/Watt).
The lower power consumption number and lower PPD performance score were a bit surprising, since the GTX 1070 TI has 512 more CUDA cores than the GTX 1070. However, in my previous review of the 1070, I had done a lot of optimization work, both with overclocking and with driver tuning. So, now it was time to do the same to the 1070 Ti.
Tuning the Card
By running UNIGINE’s Heaven video game benchmark in windowed mode, I was able to watch what the card did in MSI afterburner. The core clock boosted up to 1860 MHz (a modest increase from the 1823 base clock), and the memory went up to 4000 MHz (the default). I tried these overclocking settings and saw only a modest increase in PPD numbers. So, I decided to push it further, despite the Asus card having only a reference-style blower cooler. From my 1070 review, I found I was able to fold nice and stable with a core clock of 2012 MHz and a memory clock of 3802 MHz. So, I set up the GTX 1070 Ti with those same settings. After running it for five days, I pushed the core a little higher to 2050 Mhz. A few days later, I upgraded the driver to the latest (417.71).
Nvidia GTX 1070 Ti Monitoring – Overclocked
With these settings, I did have to increase the fan speed to keep the card below 70 degrees Celsius. Since the Asus card uses a blower cooler, it was a bit loud, but nothing too crazy. Open-air coolers with lots of heat pipes and multiple fans would probably let me push the card higher, but from what I’d read, people start running into stability problems at core clocks over 2100 Mhz. Since the goal of Folding@home is to produce reliable science to help Stanford University fight disease, I didn’t want to risk dropping a work unit due to an unstable overclock.
Here’s the production vs. time history from Stanford’s servers, courtesy of https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/
Nvidia GTX1070 Ti Folding@Home Production Time History
As you can see below, the overclock helped improve the performance of the GTX 1070 Ti. Using the last five days worth of data points (which has the graphics driver set to 417.71 and the 2050 MHz core overclock), I got an average PPD of 703,371 PPD with a power consumption at the wall of 225 Watts. This gives an overall system efficiency of 3126 PPD/Watt.
Finally, these results are starting to make more sense. Now, this card is outpacing the GTX 1070 in terms of both PPD and energy efficiency. However, the gain in performance isn’t enough to confidently say the card is doing better, since there is typically a +/- 10% PPD difference depending on what work unit the computer receives. This is clear from the amount of variability, or “hash”, in the time history plot.
Interestingly, the GTX 1070 Ti it is still using about the same amount of power as the base model GTX 1070, which has a Thermal Design Power of 150 Watts, compared to the GTX 1070 Ti’s TDP of 180 Watts. So, why isn’t my system consuming 30 watts more at the wall than it did when equipped with the base 1070?
I suspect the issue here is that the drivers available for the 1070 Ti are not as good for folding as the 372.90 driver for the non-Ti 10-series Nvidia cards. As you can see from the MSI Afterburner screen shots above, GPU Usage on the GTX 1070 Ti during folding hovers in the 80-90% range, which is lower than the 85-93% range seen when using the non-Ti GTX 1070. In short, folding on the 1070 Ti seems to be a bit handicapped by the drivers available in Windows.
Comparison to Similar Cards
Here are the Production and Efficiency Plots for comparison to other cards I’ve tested.
GTX 1070 Ti Performance Comparison
GTX 1070 Ti Efficiency Comparison
Conclusion
The Nvidia GTX 1070 Ti is a very good graphics card for running Folding@Home. With an average PPD of 703K and a system efficiency of 3126 PPD/Watt, it is the fastest and most efficient graphics card I’ve tested so far. As far as maximizing the amount of science done per electricity consumed, this card continues the trend…higher-end video cards are more efficient, despite the increased power draw.
One side note about the GTX 1070 Ti is that the drivers don’t seem as optimized as they could be. This is a known problem for running Folding@Home in Windows. But, since the proven Nvidia driver 372.90 is not available for the Ti-flavor of the 1070, the hit here is more than normal. On the used market in 2019, you can get a GTX 1070 for $200 on ebay, whereas the GTX 1070 Ti’s go for $250. My opinion is that if you’re going to fold in Windows, a tuned GTX 1070 running the 372.90 driver is the way to go.
Future Work
To fully unlock the capability of the GTX 1070 Ti, I realized I’m going to have to switch operating systems. Stay tuned for a follow-up article in Linux.
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GTX 1070 and 1070ti — How much does the ASUS GTX 1070 consume?
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ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 (STRIX-GTX1070-8G-GAMING) Price $530. In the city of AMD and Nvidia, only these remained. On some forums I read that it eats 300 watts, and on others 150 watts.
Who has, who can say how much electricity he eats and gives on the air or zec? I just don’t see the point in waiting for the rx 580 for at least 2 weeks, or even a month at space prices.
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the whole point of the sale — 1070 for $530
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180-190 she eats, while 490-500 sols can be squeezed out if you don’t mind
and so 165-170 at 480 sols (+80/+500)
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payk said:
180-190 she eats, while 490-500 sols can be squeezed out if you don’t mind
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Thank you for your reply.
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I won’t say anything about the Asus, but having a giga 1070 g1 gaming, I can say that with one card the system consumes about 200W (in overclocking +100/+500). Zec digs 475-490. The system + two cards with the same overclocking consume 405-420W… I didn’t measure it further. (mother asus Prime Z-270P, PSU 1.5kW, 8GB, lightest CPU, ssd)
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I have 3 such cards and 2 giga 1070 g1 gaming. From the outlet, the whole system eats a maximum of 900w. Regarding the cards: Asus really liked it, it is cold and quiet and eats about 150W (460sol) 8 pin power. Gigabyte is complete shit, the back side heats up so that you can’t hold your hand (I strongly advise against it). In terms of noise, I think it’s even quieter than Asus. Eats from the socket about 180 W (470 sol) 8 + 6 meals.
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I have two such cards, they eat 150 each, very quiet and cold cards, the temperature is 61 degrees. I farm through nicehash without overclocking the air 57-58 mh, by the way I bought the second one in half a year in both memory samsung
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Approximately so, no more than 170w.
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Consumes like all GTX 1070. Within the TDP, well, more if you increase the PW.
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there is a wonderful site https://ru. msi.com/power-supply-calculator
everything counts and shows
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alekseiSE said:
there is a wonderful site https://ru.msi.com/power-supply-calculator
counts and shows everythingClick to expand…
Thank you very much.
I will also share my experience if it is useful to someone. 6* 1070 inno3d gaming OC → two PSU 750 thermals work quite well. the total consumption came out about 1180 watts.
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illustrative answer) there are about 12 farms on 1070 strix) I love them very much)
on the air as sewn 580 give) even more)
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Rossomahaar said:
View attachment 19548 View attachment 19547 a clear answer) there are about 12 farms on 1070 strix) I love them very much)
on the air as sewn 580 give) even more)Click to expand. ..
No longer kept on the air from memory? If the memory is chasing further, then there are 31 and 32Mx. But at 1080 your overclocking is not at all correct. In addition to the memory, you need to raise the core + lower the PL, and then there will be more salts, and the consumption is 30-40 watts lower than
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No longer kept on the air from memory? If the memory is chasing further, then there are 31 and 32Mx. But at 1080 your overclocking is not at all correct. In addition to the memory, you need to raise the core + lower the PL, and then there will be more salts, and the consumption is 30-40 watts lower than
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thanks, dear) I don’t drive strixes further. there is a stable hashrate at 26 cars on Zeke and 17 on the air. It happens when you massively start to accelerate cars, then the rigs randomly start to fall off. so I made one optimal setting for all farms, which everyone holds and does not fall) + I don’t want to force the cards. These kids are very well behaved without rape, and I survived the toad period a long time ago) stability)
PS. at the expense of 1080 I will try what you advise. I don’t have much 1080, so I didn’t bother. soul closer to 1070 strix)
and usually at 1080 I put PL 90 core +100 memory +600 =)
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Rossomahaar said:
descriptive answer) there are about 12 farms on 1070 strix) I love them very much)
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good temperature, how do you cool the cards?
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is a good temperature, how do you cool the cards?
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GTX 1070 and 1070ti — Discussing the 1070ti (update 10/26/17) | Page 2
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That’s what confused me — 8 pin power, tdp 180 watts — firstly, it doesn’t roll, well, it won’t trample on 8 pins 180 watts, 160 maximum. This means that turbo boost will be limited, and very strongly. Actually, according to nuclear algorithms, it will be initially strangled in terms of consumption, which means productivity. And here it’s easier and more profitable to take 1080, since the choice is already rich and the price has already approached the “expensive” 1070. stupid to say the least. IMHO — no matter how the miners fap on it, this card is purely for gaming use in the 2k format, where 1070 falls short, and 1080 turns out to be superfluous, let’s say for 7600, then 1070ti will fall right into the pipe
PS. Well, we also don’t forget about the rejection of 1080 chips. If it didn’t go there, but is too good for 1070, then you can cut down a little more on the release of the average. 1070ti has no place in the current price development, 10-20 dollars between 108 and 1070 is almost the norm, and where to shove a newbie?Click to expand…
The fact of the matter is that the food is 6 + 8 (as seen on (kfa2)
And the memory is not X, and therefore became interested in this option.
IMHO, I think that the result on ZEK will be about 1080, and maybe more if overclocking is not blocked.
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Question. Why impose a ban on overclocking? What is it connected with? Are defective 1080 chips used or what? Judging by the table, it looks very similar. If you look like that, it’s like twin brothers, just the youngest hit his head slightly at birth.
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yes, exactly
the chip did not come out, they sell with a discount
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Mining_Maniak said:
nc) my forecast for ether 38 overclocked, for zcash 600
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38 1080 ti gives)
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Densa said:
That’s what confused me — 8 pin power supply, tdp 180 watts — firstly, it doesn’t roll, well, it won’t trample on 8 pins 180 watts, 160 maximum. This means that turbo boost will be limited, and very strongly. Actually, according to nuclear algorithms, it will be initially strangled in terms of consumption, which means productivity.
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what nonsense
full of cards on the market 1080 with 1x8pin (out of the box 180w), unscrew PL>100, will eat 200-220w
just why the heck rape the cool\vrm for the sake of 10-20sol
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Monero saved the 56th, what will save the 1070TI? After all, obviously gamers will not rush to buy it.
Although, maybe NVidia makes it purely for the image, but in fact it will continue to rivet 1060/1060ME with hundreds of thousands exclusively for miners….
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Mordor
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the main thing is that the prices are adequate, and not like in citylink 52 thousand per vega when it is released bgg
NaumovParadox
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Update.
ASUS is planning at least three variants of the GTX 1070 Ti. Two STRIX models are expected. OC GAMING may be canceled because NVIDIA has blocked all AIC cards at the same frequency, in other words it would not make sense.
The third model is TURBO.
five GTX 1070 Ti models from MSI:
- MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB AERO
- MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB ARMOR
- MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB DUKE
- MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB GAMING
- MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB TITANIUM (Based on Quick Silver)
Each of these cards has the same clock speed of 1607/1683 MHz.
GIGABYTE AORUS GTX 1070 TI
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lalka
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with blocked frequencies, of course, the lolische is complete. in the afterburner everything will be available to anyone.
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Densa said:
Well,
will not trample on 8 pins 180 watts, 160 maximum.
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8 pin allowed 150W + 75W via PCI. Total 225w ceiling. Where does 160 come from?
ygu
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at the distributor lanit appeared in the price list. the delivery date is unknown, but the price tag is terrible, even if there is some kind of discount for wholesalers
ROG-STRIX-GTX1070TI-8G-GAMING 715$
XPERT
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ygu said:
at the distributor’s lanit appeared in the price list. the delivery date is not known, but the price tag is terrible, even if there is some kind of discount for wholesalers
ROG-STRIX-GTX1070TI-8G-GAMING $715Click to expand…
It’s easier to take 1080ti over the hill then, 715 is PPC of course for such a model
NaumovParadox
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No panic, preliminary data. Just a few more days to find out the exact price.
Can’t 1070 ti cost $50 cheaper than 1080… or the manufacturer accidentally found out how many salts/mgh it gives out on ddr5.
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Foreign price aggregators recorded a «false start» with the appearance on the showcase of the American Internet giant of the video card GeForce GTX 1070 Ti performed by one of NVIDIA’s partners.
NaumovParadox
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Update 10/26/2017
All exact specifications will be known tomorrow. Some stores will start collecting pre-orders (USA)
Zotak’s very interesting 8+8 power supply
Also, manufacturers are going to release overclocked versions, which was previously questionable due to overclocking blocking.
For example:
NaumovParadox
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All models 1070ti
ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB ROG STRIX GAMING (ROG-STRIX-GTX1070TI-8G-GAMING) ~1607 MHz 1721 MHz ~2002 MHz
ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB ROG STRIX GAMING ADVANCE-D (ROG-STRIX GTX1070TI-A8G-GAMING) ~1607 MHz 1759MHz ~2002 MHz
ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB TURBO (TURBO-GTX1070TI-8G) ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz
EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB FTW2 GAMING ICX ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz GeForce
GTX 1070 Ti 8GB GAMING ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz
EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB GAMING ICX ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz MHz ~2002 MHz
EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC HYBRID ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB AORUS ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Gaming ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz
INNO3D GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB iChill X3 ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz
INNO3D GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB iChill X4 ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz ~2002 MHz
KFA2 GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB EX (70ISH6DHM9XK) ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB AERO ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB ARMOR ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz MHz
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB GAMING ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB TITANIUM ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz 2002 MHz
PALIT GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB JetStream ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz
PNY GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz
PNY GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB V2 ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB AMP! Edition (ZT-P10710C-10P) ~1607 MHz ~1683 MHz ~2002 MHz
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB AMP! Extreme (ZT-P10710B-10P) ~1607MHz ~1683MHz ~2002MHz
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Mini (ZT-P10710G-10P) ~1607MHz ~1683MHz ~2002MH
kukucumber
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So what about mining?
padal
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kukucumber said:
So what about mining?
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usles
some kind of signature, have not yet come up with
Tyumen mama
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Mining_Maniak said:
nc) my forecast for ether 38 overclocked, for zcash 600
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she is unlikely to give as 1080
the best axis for mining
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Tyumen mama said:
she is unlikely to give as 1080
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