B450 intel lan: Choosing the Right B450 Motherboard

Choosing the Right B450 Motherboard

by Gavin Bonshoron July 31, 2018 8:00 AM EST

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What’s New With The B450 ChipsetASRock B450 Gaming K4ASRock B450 Gaming ITX/acASRock B450 Pro4 and B450M Pro4ASRock B450M-HDVASUS ROG Strix B450-F GamingASUS ROG Strix B450-I GamingASUS TUF B450-Plus Gaming and B450M-Plus GamingASUS Prime B450 PlusASUS Prime B450M-KGIGABYTE B450 Aorus M and B450 Aorus EliteGIGABYTE B450 Aorus Pro and B450 Aorus Pro WIFIGIGABYTE B450M DS3HMSI B450 Gaming Plus and B450M Gaming PlusMSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon ACMSI B450I Gaming Plus ACMSI B450 TomahawkMSI B450M Bazooka and B450M Bazooka PlusMSI B450M Mortar and B450M Mortar TitaniumMSI B450-A ProMSI B450M PRO-M2 and B450M PRO-VDHChoosing the Right B450 Motherboard

While there are over twenty-five motherboards to select from on the B450 chipset, finding the right one with the right balance of features can be somewhat confusing. Selecting based on certain criteria can help narrow down between features such as dual M.2, integrated WiFi and pricing; some shine above others in the specifications whereas others may not have a specific desired feature.

Prices given from July 31st

B450 Motherboards Mobile Users, best viewed in Landscape mode
Key Features	Current Options	Size	Price (Amazon)	Price (Newegg)
Realtek ALC1220 Audio Codec (vs. ALC892 / ALC887)	ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming ASUS ROG Strix B450-I Gaming ASRock B450 Gaming-ITX/ac GIGABYTE B450 Aorus Pro GIGABYTE B450 Aorus Pro WiFi MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC	ATX mITX mITX ATX ATX ATX	$130 N/A N/A N/A $120 N/A	$130 N/A $130 N/A $120 N/A
Intel Gigabit LAN (vs. Realtek)	ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming ASUS ROG Strix B450-I Gaming ASRock B450 Gaming-ITX/ac GIGABYTE B450 Aorus Pro GIGABYTE B450 Aorus Pro WiFi MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC	ATX mITX mITX ATX ATX ATX	$130 N/A N/A N/A $120 N/A	$130 N/A $130 N/A $120 N/A
WiFi (vs. non-WiFi)	ASUS ROG Strix B450-I Gaming ASRock B450 Gaming-ITX/ac GIGABYTE B450 Aorus Pro WiFi MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC MSI B450I Gaming Plus AC	mITX mITX ATX ATX mITX	N/A N/A $120 N/A N/A	N/A $130 $120 N/A N/A
6 SATA Ports (vs. 4)	ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming ASUS TUF B450-Plus Gaming ASUS TUF B450M-Plus Gaming ASUS Prime B450 Plus ASRock B450 Gaming K4 ASRock B450 Pro4 ASRock B450M Pro4 GIGABYTE B450 Aorus Pro GIGABYTE B450 Aorus Pro WiFi GIGABYTE B450 Aorus M MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC MSI B450 Tomahawk MSI B450 Gaming Plus MSI B450-A Pro	ATX ATX mATX ATX ATX ATX mATX ATX ATX mATX ATX ATX ATX ATX	$130 $120 $100 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A $120 $85 N/A N/A N/A N/A	$130 $120 $100 $110 $100 $90 $80 N/A $120 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
2 M. 2 Ports	ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming ASRock B450 Gaming K4 ASRock B450 Pro4 ASRock B450M Pro4 GIGABYTE B450 Aorus Pro GIGABYTE B450 Aorus Pro WiFi MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC MSI B450M Mortar MSI B450M Mortar Titanium	ATX ATX ATX mATX ATX ATX ATX mATX mATX	$130 N/A N/A N/A N/A $120 N/A N/A N/A	$130 $100 $90 $80 N/A $120 N/A N/A N/A
HDMI 2.0	ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming ASUS ROG Strix B450-I Gaming ASUS TUF B450-Plus Gaming ASUS TUF B450M-Plus Gaming ASUS Prime B450-Plus ASRock B450 Gaming-ITX/ac GIGABYTE B450 Aorus Pro GIGABYTE B450 Aorus Pro WiFi GIGABYTE B450 Aorus M GIGABYTE B450M DS3H	ATX mITX ATX mATX ATX mITX ATX ATX mATX mATX	$130 N/A $120 $100 N/A N/A N/A $120 $85 $70	$130 N/A $120 $100 $110 N/A N/A $120 $85 $70

The B450 chipset is essentially a B350 first generation refresh which has given manufacturers the opportunity to refine and define; for example GIGABYTE has focused their attention on specifically on defining their Aorus gaming brand to users and has used the B450 chipset to implement the new naming schemes. Other vendors have made slight aesthetic adjustments, while others have added more premium componentry to their offerings in exchange for a slightly higher MSRP; or in a lot of cases, remained with the same pricing structure.

B450 Motherboards
Key Features	Price	Link	SATA	M.2	GbE	WiFi	Audio
ASUS
ROG Strix B450-F Gaming ROG Strix B450-I Gaming TUF B450-Plus Gaming TUF B450M-Plus Gaming Prime B450-Plus Prime B450M-K	$130 $120 $120 $100 $100 —	Link Link Link Link Link Link	6 6 6 6 6 4	2 1 1 1 1 1	I211-AT 8111H 8111H 8111H 8111H 8111H	Intel — — — — —	ALC1220A ALC1220A ALC887-VD2 ALC887-VD2 ALC887-VD2 ALC887
ASRock
B450 Gaming K4 B450 Gaming ITX/ac B450 Pro4 B450M Pro4 B450M-HDV	$100 $130 $90 $80 $70	Link Link Link Link Link	6 4 6 6 4	2 1 2 2 1	8111H I211-AT 8111H 8111H 8111H	— Intel — — —	ALC892 ALC1220 ALC892 ALC892 ALC887
GIGABYTE
B450 Aorus Pro WiFi B450 Aorus Pro B450 Aorus M B450 Aorus Elite B450M DS3H	$120 — $85 — $70	Link Link Link — Link	6 6 6 ? 4	2 2 1 2 1	I211-AT I211-AT 8111H ? 8111H	Intel — — — —	ALC1220-VB ALC1220-VB ALC892 ? ALC887
MSI
B450 GPC AC B450 Gaming Plus B450M Gaming Plus B450I Gaming Plus AC B450 Tomahawk B450M Bazooka B450M Bazooka Plus B450M Mortar B450M Mortar Titanium B450-A Pro B450M Pro-M2 B450M Pro-VDH	$130 $100 — $120 $110 $85 — — — $90 $70 —	Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link Link	6 6 4 4 6 4 4 4 4 6 4 4	2 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1	I211-AT 8111H 8111H 8111H 8111H 8111H 8111H 8111H 8111H 8111H 8111H 8111H	Intel — — Intel — — — — — — — —	ALC1220 ALC892 ALC887 ALC887 ALC892 ALC892 ALC892 ALC892 ALC892 ALC887 ALC887 ALC892

Each vendor seems to have a good range of products on offer, from $70 to $130, with at least one board in the range with Intel Ethernet, Intel Wi-Fi, and the top end codec. In order to get all three, it looks like the minimum price will be $120.

MSI B450M PRO-M2 and B450M PRO-VDH

What’s New With The B450 ChipsetASRock B450 Gaming K4ASRock B450 Gaming ITX/acASRock B450 Pro4 and B450M Pro4ASRock B450M-HDVASUS ROG Strix B450-F GamingASUS ROG Strix B450-I GamingASUS TUF B450-Plus Gaming and B450M-Plus GamingASUS Prime B450 PlusASUS Prime B450M-KGIGABYTE B450 Aorus M and B450 Aorus EliteGIGABYTE B450 Aorus Pro and B450 Aorus Pro WIFIGIGABYTE B450M DS3HMSI B450 Gaming Plus and B450M Gaming PlusMSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon ACMSI B450I Gaming Plus ACMSI B450 TomahawkMSI B450M Bazooka and B450M Bazooka PlusMSI B450M Mortar and B450M Mortar TitaniumMSI B450-A ProMSI B450M PRO-M2 and B450M PRO-VDHChoosing the Right B450 Motherboard

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PRIME B450M-A｜Motherboard｜ASUS CIS

Flexible

High speed interfaces

Stability and compatibility

New standards in sound quality

Lighting and virtual reality

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D-Sub

2
DVI-D

3
HDMI

4
USB3. 1 Gen1

5
USB3.1 Gen2

6
LAN

7
Sound

8

PCI Express 3.0

• SafeSlot Core Technology

9

Sound subsystem

• LED lighting
• Shielding
• Audio separation
• High quality
  Japanese capacitors

10
DIGI+ voltage stabilizer and EPU chip

eleven
Support for DDR4-3200 memory (in overclocking mode)

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Processor socket AM4

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M.2 interface (32Gb/s)
(SATA and PCIe x4 modes)

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Chipset AMD B450

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6 SATA 6Gb/s ports

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Front USB 3.1 Gen1

ASUS Prime B450 series motherboard will not only provide a solid foundation for your first computer, but will also open up wide opportunities for upgrading it as your ambitions increase. Supporting all the functionality of the latest AMD Ryzen processors, it complements it with innovative solutions from ASUS, such as high-quality integrated audio, automatic optimization of system parameters, flexible fan control. ASUS Prime B450 motherboards are the perfect choice for anyone who wants to easily, quickly and affordably build their own PC.

Flexible

High Power Efficiency

A special ASUS EPU chip optimizes the power consumption of your computer, allowing you to achieve significant power savings. It supports a special mode of operation that cuts off power from unused peripheral controllers.

Flexible cooling

Fan Xpert 2+ software is a complete fan management system that helps you keep your computer cool and quiet.

Efficient Cooling

The Prime B450 series motherboards offer flexible control over your computer’s cooling system through the UEFI BIOS interface and the dedicated Fan Xpert utility.

Each fan connector can be controlled based on data from three thermal sensors. Moreover, the Fan Xpert utility allows you to set the temperature of some ASUS video cards as a basis for changing the speed of rotation of the system fans.

*Specifications vary by product model — please refer to specifications page for exact details. All images are for illustration purposes only.

Speed ​​up your memory!

With clever memory slot layouts, Prime B450 series motherboards keep the latest Ryzen processors stable with a variety of DDR4 modules, from entry-level kits to overclockers.

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | RAM: G.Skill F4-3600C18D-16GTZRX (2×8 GB) | Power supply: Corsair RM850i ​​| Water cooling: Corsair h210i

ASUS UEFI BIOS

Prime B450 series motherboards are equipped with an easy-to-use and functional UEFI BIOS interface.



The user can set the fan speed manually, or by selecting one of the preset adjustment options from “silent” to “maximum speed”. The maximum speed mode is also activated automatically when the temperature reaches 75°.

Search function
«Advanced» BIOS mode is used for deep configuration of the motherboard. The built-in search function will help you quickly find the desired parameters in numerous sections of the convenient user interface.

Learn more

«Basic» mode

Setup wizard
It will help you create a RAID array or quickly increase system performance by overclocking the processor.

Intuitive fan control
It is enough to change the shape of the speed control graph with the mouse.

Information about SATA devices
Detailed information about each SATA port will make it easy to recognize the devices connected to them.

Time setting
Specifying the system date and time using the mouse.

Advanced mode

Favorites
For quick access to frequently used settings, you can add them to a special list.

User profile S
Saving BIOS settings for migrating to a new firmware version or another computer.

Renaming SATA ports
For quick identification of connected devices.

High-Speed ​​Interfaces

USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-A

Built-in USB 3.

1

This motherboard comes with USB 3.1 Gen 2 (in the form of a standard Type-A connector) with twice the bandwidth (10Gbps) USB 3.1 Gen1 capabilities.

*Specifications may vary by product model — refer to specifications page for exact details. All images are for illustration purposes only.

Front USB 3.1 Gen1

Connectivity

This motherboard allows you to bring a high-speed USB 3.1 Gen1 interface to the front of your computer case.

*Specifications may vary by product model — refer to specifications page for exact details. All images are for illustration purposes only.

M.2

Built-in M.2 interface

Using four PCI Express 3.0/2.0 lanes, the M.2 interface provides data transfer rates up to 32 Gbps. It is ideal for connecting modern SSDs.

*Specifications may vary by product model — refer to specifications page for exact details. All images are for illustration purposes only.

AMD StoreMI

Hard disk acceleration

The AMD StoreMI application makes your entire PC more responsive by reducing operating system and application loading times. With it, you can enjoy both the speed advantages of an SSD and the high capacity of a traditional hard drive by automatically transferring your most frequently accessed data to the faster drive.

Support for SSD RAID

To increase the speed of user memory to unprecedented levels, you can combine a pair of SSDs in PCIe mode into a RAID0 array.

M.2+PCIe

Stability and Compatibility

Flawless Reliability

As the world’s largest motherboard manufacturer, ASUS has pioneered many innovations that have become industry standards. With years of experience, ASUS is an industry leader in terms of performance, reliability and compatibility of its products. If you want to build the best computer — use an ASUS motherboard!

5X

Protection III

Hardware protection for stable operation.

520+

compatible DDR4 modules

Wide compatibility with various brands of DDR4 memory modules.

1000+

compatible devices

Including processors, memory modules, video cards, etc.

8000+

hours of testing

Provides unparalleled performance reliability.

ASUS Prime B450 motherboards boast a long service life with 5X Protection III technology, which includes a range of engineering solutions that protect against electrical overload, corrosion, ESD and other troubles.

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SafeSlot Core

Reinforced PCIe Slot

SafeSlot Core technology is a special method of attaching a PCIe slot that provides greater strength and resistance to deformation.

Reinforced solder points around PCIe and DIMM slots.

Network interface protection — LANGuard

For stable operation of a computer network

The wired network connector on ASUS motherboards is equipped with a special protection against static electricity and voltage surges.

Overload protection

Smart power system

This motherboard’s power system uses regulators to provide protection against power surges that can occur when using substandard power supplies.

DIGI+ Voltage Regulator

Ultimate Power Supply

The DIGI+ Digital Power System is highly efficient, reliable and stable under any load.

Overcurrent Protection

Short Circuit Prevention

Built-in fuses are used on the motherboard to prevent overcurrent and short circuits. They protect all components of the device, from peripheral connectors to memory slots.

Stainless Steel Backplate

Enhanced Corrosion Resistance

ASUS motherboards’ backplate is made of stainless steel coated with a thin layer of chromium oxide, which has anti-corrosion properties. Thanks to this, it boasts a long service life.

ESD protection

For safe operation

ASUS motherboards are fully protected against potentially dangerous discharges of static electricity: airborne electrostatic discharge up to +/- 10 kV and contact discharge up to +/-6 kV.

1000+

compatible devices

The Prime B450 series compatibility list contains thousands of different devices, including a long list of memory modules. And this means a minimum of problems with self-assembly of a computer based on this motherboard.

8000+

testing hours

ASUS motherboards are highly reliable products. Each piece is subjected to more than 8,000 hours of extensive testing to ensure reliability exceeds industry standards.

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Temperature test

Verifies product performance under extreme conditions.

Temperature control test

The low temperature of the components must be maintained even under high load.

Connector test

All I/O ports are tested for repeated insertion/removal of peripherals.

Durability Test

A 48-hour test that checks the durability of the product.

Energy Test

World class energy efficiency.

Thermal voltage fluctuation test

The motherboard must be able to handle voltage fluctuations caused by changes in temperature.

Temperature difference test

The ability of the device to withstand temperature changes during transport without problems.

Physical Shock Test

The device must be able to withstand the jolt that normally accompanies transportation.

Failure test

Maximum load test.

Assembly test

Tests the ease of placement of various connectors and slots.

Impact resistance

The ability of the device to survive a fall from various heights is tested.

Corrosion Test

Tests I/O ports for reliable operation and rust resistance.

New standards in sound quality

Captivating sound

For true audiophiles

Innovative engineering and high-quality components ensure a high quality built-in audio system.

Electrical insulation of audio components

Separation of analog and digital sections to minimize interference.

Separate audio wiring

To reduce crosstalk.

Japanese capacitors

Make an invaluable contribution to high sound quality.

*Specifications may vary by product model — refer to specifications page for exact details. All images are for illustration purposes only.

Lighting and virtual reality

Aura Lighting

Outsmarting the competition

To give your PC a touch of personality and brightness, Prime B450M-A allows you to connect an LED strip* that can be synchronized with other Aura-compatible ASUS devices (Aura Sync technology).

Learn more >

Static

Ripple

Strobe

Rainbow

Cycle

Comet

Flares 900 03 Wave

Yo-yo

Starry night

Music

CPU temperature

* The RGB connector accepts 5050 RGB LED strips up to 3A (12V). Maximum brightness is achieved when the strip length does not exceed 3 m.
LED strips and Aura-compatible products are sold separately.

*Specifications may vary by product model — refer to specifications page for exact details. All images are for illustration purposes only.

For beautiful computers

LED lighting for PCIe slots and audio components

This motherboard is equipped with colorful LED lighting with various visual effects.

*Specifications may vary by product model — refer to specifications page for exact details. All images are for illustration purposes only.

More than virtual reality

All-in-One

Prime B450 series motherboards bear the “Beyond VR Ready” badge, which means not only full compatibility with modern virtual reality systems, but also high performance needed for any other types of applications: professional, gaming, entertainment.

AM4 socket for AMD processors
This motherboard is compatible with AMD Ryzen processors that are installed in socket AM4. With up to eight cores, the Ryzen series models feature the innovative Zen microarchitecture and can be equipped with the powerful Radeon Vega integrated graphics core. AMD AM4 processors support USB 3.1 (5Gb/s), 16 PCI Express 3.0/2.0 lanes, and dual-channel DDR4 RAM.

AMD B450 Chipset
The AMD B450 chipset delivers the high performance of the latest AMD Ryzen processors for socket AM4. It supports AMD StoreMI technology for accelerating drives, and for connecting peripherals it offers a pair of USB 3.1 Gen1 and Gen2 ports, as well as four SATA 6 Gb / s ports.

Overclocking 64GB RAM on AMD (AM4, B450) / Intel (LGA1200, B560) systems

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Foreword

Somehow I needed to assemble a system from an MSI B450-A PRO MAX and a defective 32 GB RAM set from Corsair, along the way I was going to write an article about the normal use of defective RAM if I suddenly got one.

But something went wrong and I already wanted to tell you about my adventures with MSI B450-A PRO MAX, and also about adventures with the system from Intel.

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But then I put the motherboard from MSI into the box so that it would no longer bother me with its presence and the defective castrated BIOS, and I took out 64GB with two modules from the Intel system because everything was hopeless. ..

As a result, I got a Gigabyte B450M H and started to overclock 2 modules of 32 GB each from Kingston, because this task was not solved during the first review of this memory.

Features Kingston KVR29N21D8/32

Website: 0 (www.kingston.com/dataSheets/KVR29N21D8_32.pdf)

Why I abandoned MSI B450-A PRO MAX and Intel problems

Because MSI, as always, cannot create «BIOS» firmware, it always either works crookedly for them (even in a laptop with virtualization they managed to mess up what Microsoft fixed in the end), or there are no settings at all that even Asus appeared a long time ago.

Although, in fairness, not everything works adequately with Asus, and some settings that MSI had for a long time did not appear over time, in general, Asus and MSI are worth each other. ..

Actually because of what I got burned this time from MSI:

For those who do not understand, I explain, this is how the AMD CBS menu should look like in normal motherboards:

And I only needed one setting that MSI didn’t bother to put into their ostentatious GUI…

This setting controls memory error correction while I had a system based on Asus B450M-K and Ryzen 5 1600AF together with a defective set of RAM from Corsair, I purposefully turned off ECC so that it would not interfere with identifying all bad memory addresses:

Intel, unfortunately, could not master anything like this in the consumer segment (they probably don’t want to).

I installed the same defective set of RAM from Corsair to i3-10105F and R7 2700X, the following photos clearly show the difference in the number of detected errors on systems from AMD and Intel, and the modules worked under the same conditions on the parameters from the XMP profile.

Also, the system from Intel constantly freezes when I use MemTest86 and a lot of errors appeared in the process, I can’t do anything about it, it just freezes not allowing to save the test results, when this problem has not happened with AMD yet …

Removing a defective kit from Corsair, I decided to install a 64GB Kingston for the i3-10105F instead of the old 16GB.

I thought I would finally end the torment from the lack of RAM by temporarily installing 64 GB instead of 16, but that was not the case, Intel is still an office obsessed with the production of «disposable products» with poor support.

Because of this, I used a USB 3.0 controller installed in the PCI-e x1 slot, and I never had problems with it, as well as with the availability of drivers for different operating systems.

However, I’m having problems, this third party USB controller installed in PCI-e x1 suddenly stopped working in the operating system after installing 64 GB of RAM.

Given that the USB controllers built into the chipset from Intel are faulty due to the lack of an available driver for the operating system used, I only have access to the PS / 2 connector working from the multicontroller on the motherboard.

Of course, it’s impossible to use the system in this way, and I’m not going to adapt to Intel by changing the operating system at the very first «requirement», especially now it’s impossible to change the OS in any way.

I installed a USB controller from VIA into different PCI-e slots, and tested the memory from Kingston for errors (what if), and even reinstalled the driver for the USB 3.0 controller using only a keyboard through a PS / 2 — USB adapter.

Everything is useless while 64 GB of RAM is installed in the system based on the Intel Core i3-10105F, the third-party USB 3.0 controller from Intel did not want to work.

This forced me to install 16 GB back into the system and endure this small volume while keeping swap enabled, forcing the SSD with unnecessary loads, it’s good that my drive is not based on QLC memory and has a DRAM cache on board . ..

Thus, I finally put the motherboard from MSI into the box and took out the Gigabyte B450M H to install 64GB from Kingston into it again, it still needed to be overclocked.

Gigabyte B450M H + Ryzen 7 2700X

First, of course, I assembled the system, Gigabyte B450M H, Ryzen 7 2700X, RX 560 and two Kingston KVR29N21D8 / 32 modules, powering this whole thing Aerocool ECO 600W:

9 0002 First of all, I photographed the parameters work of the RAM and made tests dependent on the speed of the memory, there is nothing remarkable here, just the speed in the «insert and forget» scenario.

The next step is fixing the parameters of the RAM in the BIOS, in this case I fix the parameters of operation from a frequency of 2933 MHz, including fixing the ODT / RTT resistances, do not forget that I previously ran ZenTimings to see and take a picture of all these values.

After fixing all the values, I save the profile as «2933 subs», this is necessary so that if I need to reset the CMOS settings, I can load the profile with all the parameters already set and try again.

It will be unpleasant if, having launched 3800 MHz with parameters from 2933 MHz, I will have to reset the settings and manually set each parameter again…

It makes sense to say about TestMem5, inveterate theorists and calculator lovers will definitely be outraged that swapping is disabled and in general you need to use the «extreme» profile for TestMem5.

However, the paging file is a crutch that is useful only when there is not enough RAM (saved when building a PC), but it works by reducing system performance, while not solving the problem of the amount of memory occupied by the operating system.

Now about the «extreme» profile for TestMem5, it is useless for me, I had unpleasant situations when using a defective set of RAM from Corsair …

In the operating system, applications crashed and cursed for errors, but TestMem5 is fine I worked for hours using the «extreme» profile, in the end I was notably tired of it and I returned to the standard TestMem5 «Default @serj» profile, and already in the first minute errors began to fall when the «extreme» profile did not show anything for hours testing memory . ..

Actually, after that I stopped listening to «public expert opinion» and use only the standard TestMem5 profile, in other words, «experts» on the Internet are certainly good, but you also need to think with your own head.

As a result, I have TestMem5 only as a preliminary testing tool , whatever one may say, the memory occupied by the operating system cannot be released by any crutches called «swapping», and it is not available for TestMem5.

The smartest way to test memory is to use MemTest86 from a bootable flash drive, and as an add-on, you should also use Linx, it takes a lot of time, but it works as reliably as possible.

But back to overclocking, 3200 MHz with timings from 2933 MHz at 1.2V were taken very easily.

After that I raised the frequency to 3400 MHz, the memory just as easily took 3400 MHz with parameters from 2933 MHz, while the memory voltage is still 1. 2v, I am definitely pleased with this set of RAM.

3600 MHz with timings from 2933 MHz have already demanded to increase the memory voltage to 1.26v.

And now 3600 MHz didn’t pass without errors, although here it’s not the memory itself that can give errors, but the memory controller in the processor, because increasing the voltage on the RAM to 1.32v did not change the intensity of the errors, which means that the matter most likely in the RAM controller.

Nevertheless, these 3600 MHz were given very easily with modules from Kingston, of course, with Samsung TB1 I took 3600 MHz, but they were given much more difficult and only on the motherboard from Gigabyte, on motherboards from Asus and MSI 3600 MHz was unrealistic take with TB1 modules from Samsung.

Next, I released the sub-timings and decided to find the limit at which I could just start the memory, the limit of my system with two RAM modules inserted was at 3733 MHz, while I had to lower the primary timings to make the system work, but run the operating system completely and pass the tests with such a frequency did not work.

I could of course leave only one memory module, then I would certainly be able to run the system at 3800 MHz and even pass the tests, I already did this with defective Corsair LPX, but it would be pointless.

As a result, I got only 3666 MHz with automatic sub-timings, unstable of course, but the goal was to identify the limit at which it would run on my specific assembly.

Of course, I tried to take 3800 MHz by choosing the best operating parameters, but nothing worked out for me, nevertheless, the memory controller in my processor instance leaves much to be desired, even increasing the voltage on the SOC did not allow running 3800 MHz in 2 occupied memory slots.

Now I know the limits of my memory on a system with AMD Ryzen 7 2700X, and I can comfortably overclock optimally.

Knowing that 3400 MHz work quite stably with timings from 2933 MHz, it makes sense to overclock to this frequency, but this time I will take the timings from 2666 MHz.

Naturally, you should not forget about saving the set parameters to the profile, so that in case of a system freeze, you can reset the CMOS and easily return everything back by correcting the problematic parameters.

It is important to pay attention to the primary timings, I took just such a set for a reason, it was with such timings that I could start the system at a memory frequency of 3733 MHz, if I set the primary timings above 18-20-18-18, then start the system at maximum frequencies was not possible.

Basically I’m looking for the most stable parameters under the most aggressive conditions, and this works great with AMD processors.

Taking the parameters from 2666 MHz as a starting point, I immediately stepped up to 3533 MHz and got errors., but this was expected

Now I purposefully set the frequency to 3400 MHz with timings from 2666 MHz, the voltage already had to be increased to 1. 3v when 1.2v was enough with timings from 2933 MHz.

This overclocking is not over yet, because now you need to shrink TRFC, which I didn’t specifically touch all this time, and here it’s important to save the settings in the profile, since reducing TRFC too much leads to the system freezing at startup, and this already requires doing reset CMOS.

I started lowering TRFC by 20-30 points from 596 (look at ZenTimings for the actual value) until I reached 480 at which I had to reset the CMOS settings, here a pre-saved profile saves a lot of time.

Thus, I set the TRFC value to 520, which is certainly far from 480 at which the system did not start, but at the same time it is better than 596.

Now you can look for maximum stability.

Since the error manifested itself, it was decided to slightly increase the memory and SOC supply voltage, without fanaticism.

You should also test Linx suitable for a specific system, if for several dozen passes (or more) the «discrepancy» was always the same, then everything is fine.

As a result, I got a stable overclocking, which I only have to check with time using the system for 2-4 weeks without reboots.

And once again I remind you about profiles, you should not neglect the opportunity to save the current settings.

ASRock B560M HDV + Intel Core i3-10105F

I have no desire to start fiddling around with Intel, but I’ll still try to overcome the problems that constantly arose when trying to use and overclock memory paired with Intel.

Therefore, I decided to immediately update the BIOS, suddenly most of the problems have already been resolved, the first thing I am warned that everything will be lost if I suddenly use the TPM crutch enabled by default.

A little about the TPM crutch for everyone who doesn’t know yet:

If the Gigabyte B450M H provided a full-fledged explorer so that I could find and select the firmware myself, then in the case of the Intel-based ASRock, they only allow me to press three buttons, «Update», «Rescan Device» and a cross that closes the window.

It seems to be simply done for not very intelligent people, but it’s unpleasant that they decide for me what can and cannot be chosen, they don’t even allow me to make a backup copy of the old BIOS version, like on the Gigabyte B450M H …

In general, I updated the firmware, immediately disabled the TPM crutch, the crutch from Microsoft in the form of «Secure Boot» was already disabled by default, I also turn on the CSM because I need it.

It is noteworthy that in Gigabyte B450M H CSM is enabled by default and there are no problems with it when on an Intel system they warn the user to insert a separate video card that supports the so-called «legacy» mode.

It is not entirely clear whether the integrated graphics from Intel will work if it is suddenly thrown out of the control of Intel ME into «legacy» mode…

I checked the USB 3.0 controller from VIA with the new firmware, as you can see everything works, but now 16GB of memory is installed, and as for the built-in USB controller and LAN, it’s Intel’s own fault that they are engaged in the production of one-time garbage.

It’s time to install 64GB from Kingston, how annoying this dangerous creak of contacts when removing defective (proprietary) slots from Asus with one latch due to the fault … the most nasty and potentially dangerous memory slots I’ve ever seen…

Anyway, I finally installed the 32GB modules from Kingston.

Unfortunately, updating the motherboard firmware did not solve the problem with the USB controller connected to the PCI-e from the Intel chipset, as a result, only the keyboard through the PS / 2 socket works for me, it is the only one that does not depend on Intel and works fine in the end.

Later I found out that I was not the only one who had similar problems with the operation of third-party devices connected to the PCI-e bus when installing a large amount of memory on an ASRock motherboard.

In general, there is nothing to do, I had to learn how to use the system using one keyboard.

The standard JEDEC 2933 MHz, of course, worked, because these are guaranteed operation parameters, unlike Intel XMP.

In order not to waste time, I immediately set 1.32v to the RAM and set it to 3600 MHz on automatic parameters.

Along the way, I disable the «optimizers» from ASRock.

3600 MHz work, though the Command Rate is 2 units, which is unpleasant …

Then I tried to take 3866 MHz (AMD has much more RAM multipliers), touching the RTT resistance, I managed to do it.

At this point, I noticed how little information ASRock Timing Configurator provides compared to ZenTimings.

However, I failed to run the system at frequencies above 3866 MHz, and I decided to use the overclocking method, which worked fine with AMD, I still did not understand how Intel «oak» in overclocking RAM …

I set 2666 MHz with automatic timings, rebooted, fixed timings from 2666 MHz and set Command Rate to 1 unit.

While fixing the values, I was very annoyed by the slow shell after each change in the RAM parameter, and I did not notice how I missed tWTR_S, it just happened in the «slide show» when I set the parameters and did not notice how I missed one parameter.

So I saved the profile for quick access in case of a reset, after which I set it to 3600 MHz and the system did not start.

Next, I lowered the frequency to 3466 MHz, but this did not help.

After I set 3200 MHz and the system started up, then I realized that I could not set more than 3200 MHz with Command Rate 1 on an Intel system, and this is sad.

By installing CR2, I was able to run the memory at 3600 MHz with parameters from 2666 MHz, it’s unstable though.

After I tried to take the parameters from the AMD system, but ran into difficulties, the Intel system lacked many settings that were in the AMD system…

After I fixed the timings from 2666 MHz and tried to play with the primary from Intel failed to boot again.

In the end, I returned the primary timings to their place and the system worked even at 3600 MHz, this time I carefully double-checked the sub-timings so as not to miss anything due to the fault of the slow ASRock shell.

Some of the intermediate experiments, result: «The system failed to boot several times before.»…

I have been trying hard for 2 hours to overclock the memory in the system from Intel, and finally realized that with Intel it will not be as easy and simple to overclock the RAM as it has always been done with AMD Ryzen.

And I also understood why all sorts of «calculators» for overclocking memory were formed, because with Intel it’s just not possible to overclock the memory, but I don’t recognize «calculators» because of their limitations, they cannot give out at least operating parameters for absolutely any configuration, not not to mention giving out operating parameters that will be much better than automatic settings.

I already tried to use «calculators» in my time, nothing good came of it with the components that I had available.

As a result, I carefully evaluated the behavior of the system at different settings and fixed the primary timings from 2933 MHz by setting the frequency to 3600 MHz.

Then I just clamped the primary timings until the system refused to work at the frequency I needed.

Started working on secondary timings.

At some point, the system simply reset all CMOS settings, unable to withstand the next preload of secondary timings, but I prudently saved the profiles because there were no problems, well, almost none . ..

The problem was that the profiles on the system from Intel saved only the overclocking settings, but did not save anything else, in the end I even had to reconfigure the boot queue.

This turned out to be a discovery for me after the Gigabyte B450M H, which saves all settings to a profile.

Of course, I clamped the secondary timings, but not everything is as rosy as I would like…

To check the stability, I took out Linx v1.0. no matter how ironic it may sound.

And I also noticed an unpleasant fact, I forgot to disable a harmful crutch called «paging file».

But it doesn’t matter anymore, because there was a deviation, which means an error in the calculations.

Checking how the voltages float during automatic tuning, I lowered 3600 MHz to 3466 MHz without touching the already configured timings.

3466 MHz already worked without problems.

Even MemTest86 passed without errors, however, the system from Intel was not without a «surprise», a large green «PASS» message should have appeared after the test was completed, but it did not appear and the results were immediately shown.

AMD systems have never behaved so arbitrarily, now I’m not surprised why the Intel system constantly hung after testing a defective Corsair RAM set, it’s just that the Intel system does something that was not asked to do …

For the sake of interest, I took out one memory module, and lo and behold, a third-party USB controller connected to PCI-e from an Intel chipset suddenly worked fine, and I was already used to managing one keyboard …

Of course, I also made tests dependent on the speed of the RAM, it is obvious that the read / write speeds leveled off when working in one channel.

This is where I decided to finish my attempts to overclock the memory on the system from Intel, I definitely not liked overclocking the memory paired with Intel…

Results

For convenience, I translated the results obtained during the experiments into a table.

Conclusion

Surely in the comments to this article there will be people who will start to teach me how to “should” overclock memory on an Intel system, reproaching me for the fact that my results do not count and in general it was necessary to do everything “wrongly” «.

However, where were you when I directly suggested that you leave your overclocking options in the comments for me to check them out? Now don’t complain.

Gigabyte B450M H + Ryzen 7 2700X

Returning to the essence of the article, with a system based on Gigabyte B450M H and Ryzen 7 2700X, overclocking Kingston KVR29N21D8 / 32 modules turned out to be extremely simple, without increasing the voltage at timings from 2933 MHz, the memory easily started at a frequency of 3400 MHz, but for 3600 MHz it was necessary raise the memory voltage to 1. 26v.

I was able to run a two-module system at 3733 MHz CR1, but only got 3666 MHz CR1 paired with a Gigabyte B450M H and R7 2700X to pass the AIDA64 benchmarks.

However, if we talk about stable overclocking, the R7 2700X with the Gigabyte board was able to withstand 3400 MHz CR1 with timings from 2666 MHz + manual primary timings.

In general, I had no difficulties overclocking the memory in an AMD system, the main thing is to fix the ODT/RTT in advance.

Would be interesting to test overclocking with a Ryzen 3000-5000 as I definitely couldn’t figure out the memory limit due to the memory controller, but I only have an R7 2700X, however Gigabyte B450M H doesn’t stop me from replacing the 2700X with any of the newest processors from the 5000 series.

But that’s later, when it’s possible.

ASRock B560M HDV + Intel Core i3-10105F

This assembly, already when replacing RAM modules, groaned with its «proprietary» slots on one latch so that I left it alone, because further there were more and more problems . ..

I even learned how to use the system with just a keyboard due to the fact that Intel constantly produces one-time garbage that is not supported in the end and others are not allowed to support.

However, despite the difficulties, I was able to run the memory in the system from Intel at a frequency of 3866 MHz, although the timings were at the level of CL27 and CR2, when paired with AMD, the limit was 3666 MHz CL18 CR1.

As for the Command Rate (CR1/2), everything turned out sadly for Intel, I’ll just say, the system works faster with CR1 than with CR2.

The system from Intel has serious problems with starting the memory using Command Rate 1 (CR1), the limit was reached at the level of 3200 MHz CR1 paired with Intel, compared with the stable result of 3466 MHz CR2, you can see that 3200 MHz CR1 turned out to be faster in a test that is highly dependent on RAM speed.

At the same time, if you release 1 channel from the memory module, you can see how the read / write speed is evened out, and even the RAM access delay is reduced, this may indicate the mediocrity of the memory controller that does not withstand adequate work in two channels.

And when the system works with one 32GB module, a third-party USB controller connected to PCI-e from the Intel chipset suddenly starts working normally, although this is probably an ASRock problem, since I’m not the only one with a similar problem.

Well, I see a lot of sense in mentioning the problem of waking up from sleep mode on an Intel system, of course I can press this button, but there is no point, the PC goes into sleep mode as expected, but after a short time it literally wakes up according to the timer.

I’ve already checked all the available BIOS settings, but Intel still forces the system to wake up from sleep after a certain amount of time after the sleep mode was activated, probably my operating system didn’t like Intel…

Although you can still remember the non-working M2 slot if the processors are from the 10xxx series …

After various systems from AMD, I learned a lot of new and unusual things about Intel . .. from Intel after AMD? Definitely not, Intel is too «oak», does not forgive any «step aside», when the system from AMD allows you to calmly take a «step aside» and see if it gets better or worse.

And in the system from Intel, a lot of settings that were in the system from AMD were «lost», and in general, «ASRock Timing Configurator» looks dull compared to the similar utility «ZenTimings», it does not even show ODT/RTT values.

Finally, I’ll show you why I actually need 64GB of memory and why it’s not worth saving on RAM when building PC , now just two browsers are running and ~ 11GB of memory is already occupied, but I haven’t worked in GIMP and KDENLIVE yet and other software doesn’t used, just launched two browsers and ~11GB used…

P.S. When there Mozilla masters and creates an adequate «task manager» like Google Chrome …

What if you enter the game? Here already 16GB of memory will not be enough and you will have to use a crutch called «swap file», with all the ensuing consequences when accessing «swap».

Now my memory works in 1 channel, just 1 module per 32 GB is installed, but «swapping» is disabled, earlier I had 8 GB + 8 GB installed with an active swap file, and I will say that it became much more pleasant to play despite that the memory works in 1 channel.

Even when returning to the browser, sending the game to the background, the «freezes» stopped, since there are no calls to the swap file (which is disabled), just 32 GB is already enough to contain two browsers and the game at the same time in my case.

And what about after the game is over? That’s right, part of the data is sent to the operating system cache so that the next time you start the game, the data is not read from the slow storage device, but immediately pulled from the cache.

Considering the popularity of «cleaners» of this cache, it’s easy to guess that most people neglect the amount of RAM when building a PC, save by installing 16GB in 2020+, and then look for «crutches» to rid themselves of friezes in games.