Overclocking Pentium D 820 Processor
AbhMkh
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Hey Guys,
I have a 8 yr old Compaq desktop with a Pentium D 820 processor running at 2.8 Ghz with this motherboard
Motherboard Specifications, RC410-M (Asterope2) | HP® Support
Just for fun and some research purposes I want to overclock this CPU to above 3 Ghz. Now it has been a long time since I touched the desktop market(have been using laptops since) and I have a few doubts regarding the OC process.
1. How should I OC it since the Bios does not have any OC options ?
2. When I OC it, will I need any extra cooling apart from what is already there ?
3. Do I need a new PSU in order to match the OC’ed processors power demands.
4. Auxillary Question : Can I install a GPU on this motherboard ? , If yes, which one ?
5. Auxillary question 2 : Can I replace the MOBO altogether and keep the cabinet ?
TIA,
Cheers !
Abhijit
rijinpk1
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buy a new pc. you will see miles better performance.
AbhMkh
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rijinpk1 said:
buy a new pc. you will see miles better performance.
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I already have a laptop with the latest specs, this is just for some overclocking experiments.
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So nobody ? …so much for a tech forum !
Anyways, I did some research of my own and despite having a locked BIOS, I overclocked my Pentium D 820 from 2.8 Ghz to 3.3 Ghz thereby achieving a performance boost of 30 % with stock cooling and PSU
Cheers !
Abhijit
whitestar_999
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overclocking pentium D requires ‘old school’ fsb tweaking while now-a-days with intel ‘k’ series & amd cpu multiplier is the way to go hence the lack of replies. it also means that your experience won’t help much with current gen overclocking.
AbhMkh
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whitestar_999 said:
overclocking pentium D requires ‘old school’ fsb tweaking while now-a-days with intel ‘k’ series & amd cpu multiplier is the way to go hence the lack of replies.it also means that your experience won’t help much with current gen overclocking.
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And what makes you think I don’t have experience in now—days Cpu multiplier overclocking ?, problem is those methods work only if your BIOS is unlocked or your processor is supported by Intel XTU Utility.
If BIOS is locked, old school «FSB Tweaking» is the way to go !
kkn13
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AbhMkh said:
And what makes you think I don’t have experience in now—days Cpu multiplier overclocking ?, problem is those methods work only if your BIOS is unlocked or your processor is supported by Intel XTU Utility.
If BIOS is locked, old school «FSB Tweaking» is the way to go !
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why overclock such a old cpu anyway? just curious
i overclocked my pentium 4 HT (530) 3ghz to 3.4ghz with stock stuff on an unlocked msi board didnt see much difference so i brought it back to stock (still works fine)
u wont see a difference in performance as such
AbhMkh
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kkn13 said:
why overclock such a old cpu anyway? just curious
i overclocked my pentium 4 HT (530) 3ghz to 3. 4ghz with stock stuff on an unlocked msi board didnt see much difference so i brought it back to stock (still works fine)
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For fun and research, you see you overclocked on an «Unlocked» motherboard whereas I overclocked on a «Locked» motherboard.So now I know how to overclock on a motherboard with a locked BIOS aka RESEARCH
whitestar_999
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one usually does experiments to gain experience/find something to try later on in different situations so i assumed your purpose was to gain some experience. my earlier post was about lack of replies here regarding ‘old school’ overclocking.
kkn13
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AbhMkh said:
For fun and research, you see you overclocked on an «Unlocked» motherboard whereas I overclocked on a «Locked» motherboard.So now I know how to overclock on a motherboard with a locked BIOS aka RESEARCH
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i have overclocked both types
i only mentioned the pentium since u are also trying to overclock a pentium
topgear
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The only way you may OC is using Set FSB software — if it does not support your motherboard / chipset / clock gen. then there’s not much you can do unless you get a OC friendly motherboard that supports your cpu.
kkn13
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what if he flashes an unlocked bios
very very risky i know but its possible i guess
AbhMkh
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kkn13 said:
i have overclocked both types
i only mentioned the pentium since u are also trying to overclock a pentiumClick to expand. ..
Then why didn’t you reply to the thread earlier when I was asking ?
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topgear said:
The only way you may OC is using Set FSB software — if it does not support your motherboard / chipset / clock gen. then there’s not much you can do unless you get a OC friendly motherboard that supports your cpu.
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No need to get an OC friendly motherboard, The PLL IC on the present motherboard is unlocked and I using a software called clockgen tweaked the FSB speed thereby overclocking the Pentium D.
kkn13
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AbhMkh said:
Then why didn’t you reply to the thread earlier when I was asking ?
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what? didnt get u
AbhMkh
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kkn13 said:
what? didnt get u
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I mean If you had experience in OC’ing a Pentium 4 on both locked/unlocked motherboards why didn’t you help me out the first time or hadn’t you noticed this thread ?
kkn13
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AbhMkh said:
I mean If you had experience in OC’ing a Pentium 4 on both locked/unlocked motherboards why didn’t you help me out the first time or hadn’t you noticed this thread ?
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when i noticed this thread i immediately replied if thats what ur asking
topgear
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AbhMkh said:
Then why didn’t you reply to the thread earlier when I was asking ?
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No need to get an OC friendly motherboard, The PLL IC on the present motherboard is unlocked and I using a software called clockgen tweaked the FSB speed thereby overclocking the Pentium D.
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so how far you reached .. post a cpu-z pic
AbhMkh
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topgear said:
so how far you reached .. post a cpu-z pic
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Here you go….
Pentium D at stock clocks
Overclocked Pentium D
3.3 Ghz is the max I could get out of it, if I increase the FSB speed beyond 240 MHZ the screen goes black and the system crashes.
I found this to be quite strange because AFAIK we can increase the FSB speed upto atleast the memory speed which is 266 Mhz in this case.
Cheers!
Abhijit
whitestar_999
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just increasing fsb is not enough.after a certain point you have to tweak cpu & ram/chipset voltages too.
AbhMkh
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whitestar_999 said:
just increasing fsb is not enough. after a certain point you have to tweak cpu & ram/chipset voltages too.
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I agree, but you see I have a locked BIOS and I don’t think changing the voltages is possible on a locked BIOS.
whitestar_999
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that is why old school overclocking was more difficult.now-a-days anyone with an unlocked cpu multiplier(amd),a budget mobo(though not recommended),a decent power supply & cpu cooler can overclock.
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I have the following PC with specs:
HP Pavilion Media Center m7362in Desktop PC Product Specifications HP Pavilion Media Center TV m7362in Desktop PC — HP Customer Care (United States — English)
And this motherboard:
Motherboard Specifications, RC410-M (Asterope) HP Pavilion Media Center TV m7362in Desktop PC — HP Customer Care (United States — English)
I want to overclock my proccy, I have a HD4850 Graphics card.
I have attached a file with my comp temps.
Please tell me can i overclock my processor ? If yes then by how much ? I have Intel Pentium D 820 2.8 MHz.
Please also tell me how to overclock as I m a noob at this!
THANKS!
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ur biggest hurdle will be cooling….since pentium D procy’s (older ones not the e series) dessipate a lot of heat which ur stock heatsink cant handle….i have seen these chips hit 3.5ghz with good cooling..
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the whole truth about overclocking Smithfield
About heat dissipation and features
overclocking of the Pentium D 820 (2. 8 GHz) we already talked about on the day of the announcement. Although the sister processor Pentium XE 840 (3.2 GHz) was quite well overclocked by increasing the multiplier, the junior model of the Pentium D family behaved somewhat differently. The only overheating protection mechanism for this processor is the TM1 function, unless, of course, we consider the possibility of automatic shutdown upon reaching a critical temperature, which is present in all Pentium 4 processors.
Gavric , known to you from reviews of motherboards and processors , published an article about the Pentium D 820 (2.8 GHz) processor on the Fcenter.ru website. At our request, the author paid special attention to the power consumption and overclocking of this processor, so it makes sense for visitors to our site to study this review for enlightenment in the «core activity».
So, the power consumption measurements slightly reduced the negative impression about the Pentium D 820 processor that remained after reading the results of the corresponding measurements on site Tech Report . Let me remind you that our American colleagues reported that the power consumption level of Pentium D 820 (2.8 GHz) is comparable to that of Pentium 4 670 (3.8 GHz), which is one of the most powerful single-core Intel processors.
The power consumption results of the Gavric show that the Pentium D 820 (2.8 GHz) processor can consume no more power than a single-core Pentium 4 operating at 3.4 GHz. Moreover, under load, the Pentium D 820 falls within the range equivalent to the performance of single-core processors operating at a frequency of 3.2-3.4 GHz. Thus, the lack of support for EIST technology in idle mode negatively affects the power consumption of a system based on the Pentium D 820 processor. they still can’t.
In other words, the applicability of the Pentium D 820 (2.8 GHz) processor TDP=95W has been proven. In fact, the level of power consumed by this processor fits into the vicinity of the TDP=84 W requirements applicable to all Pentium 4 processors with a frequency up to 3. 4 GHz inclusive. In practice, this can provide lower operating temperatures and acceptable noise levels, especially important in the Digital Home segment.
Overclocking a Pentium D 820 (2.8 GHz) using the otherwise effective Zalman CNPS7700-Cu cooler revealed some unpleasant features of this Smithfield model. First of all, it was possible to achieve stable operation only at a frequency of 3360 MHz. The processor was also overclocked to 3.5 GHz, but only a part of the tests were successfully completed at this frequency. Checking with multi-threaded tests at a frequency of 3.36 GHz revealed the following problem: it turns out that one of the cores can go into throttling independently of the other. Keep in mind that in the case of the Pentium D 820, it makes sense to talk about TM1 operation (clock skipping), however, older models like the Pentium D 830 (3.0 GHz) or Pentium D 840 (3.2 GHz) can behave similarly within the framework of TM2 technology , downclocking to 2.8 GHz for a single core. This is how the Smithfield processor «slips» with different «wheels» during overclocking. Eh, he should have a differential lock :)…
It turns out that the absence of such a «block» is explained quite simply. Intel desktop processors with two cores currently have only one thermal diode — it is built into the Core 0 core. The second core (Core 1) does not have a thermal diode, and therefore can go into throttling even when the first one copes well with the load. Server processors with two cores will have two thermal diodes. We hope that Presler desktop processors will correct this omission.
The final frequency of stable operation of both cores was 3220 MHz — this is only 20 MHz higher than the nominal frequency of the older Smithfield model. Therefore, for effective overclocking of these processors, it makes sense to use at least a water cooling system. By the way, a motherboard with an insufficiently strong power supply subsystem can also become a «bottleneck» in the process of overclocking younger Smithfield models, as well as a weak power supply. It turns out that Smithfield supporters thinking about overclocking will have to fork out not only for a new motherboard and memory, but also for a power supply.
recommendations
According to the test results of the Pentium D 820 processor, we can say the following: the traditional strengths such as video/audio/graphics editing and final rendering by the Smithfield core have only been further strengthened. In other cases, this processor reveals its advantages only in a multitasking environment.
Compare Intel Pentium D 820 and Intel Pentium 4 540
Intel Pentium D 820
2.8 GHz | 2 cores | LGA 775
VS
Intel Pentium 4 540
3.2 GHz | 1 core | LGA 775
benchmark
General result
Based on 6 tests:
Intel Pentium D 820 faster than 4.59%
Intel Pentium D 820
9000 9KITUM TODEMI -core)
Intel Pentium D 820 is 41.04% faster
Intel Pentium D 820
1378
Intel Pentium 4 540