RTX 2060 or RX 580 need a little help deciding — Technical Support
Blender Artists Community
polynut
1
Hi guy’s
I am looking to upgrade my old 7950 and i was looking for a decent upgrade for awhile and went very close to purchase a RTX 2070 but they since release the 2060 that fit my budget better but i still have some questions ;
My first idea was to buy an RX 580 since they are dirt cheap currently and to wait for navi release this fall but then Ngreedia release the RTX 2060 and i am not sure what would be the best deal for me.
I mainly use it for game development and will need just a few cut scene rendering. I do a lot of modeling with cycles preview for displacement and that sort of thing and sometime i have to manipulate some large scenes.
I know AMD recently hire a developer to work on open cl but my best guess is it’s going to take him a few month to get this working perfectly?
What would be a good choice for what i do and what main problem would i face with both these cards? I don’t mind if the Amd card is a bit slower as long as i can work without main drawback.
Zoot
2
I changed the “2080” in your title to “2060” as that seem to be what you’re asking about.
Here’s one comparison of these two cards:
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060-6GB-vs-AMD-RX-580/4034vs3923
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Ace_Dragon
(Ace Dragon)
3
While Nvidia does command high prices almost across the board, they do seem to be the only company at the moment that really has a grasp on how a GPU works (with consistently better drivers, better thermals, and better power efficiency).
They are even the value king now and AMD’s marketshare is dropping like a stone. If AMD does not really pull some magic with Navi, they might as well let Nvidia have the monopoly they always wanted.
fdfxd
4
Raytracing and CUDA are massive selling points for our field, if these weren’t proprietary I would have told you to go with the 580.
polynut
5
Thank my mistake and also thank for the link!
polynut
6
That’s why i was thinking of getting a 580 since i could upgrade to Navi if they are really good but this is a lot of uncertainty until fall and i have no warranty that opencl is going to work as good as cuda.
It’s not that bad going with the rtx 2060 since you can grab metro exodus with it for 460 in Canadian dollar.
I still have no answer regarding if the AMD card could do the job or not? I already know it is slower but if it can do the job until they release navi i am then willing to take a chance.
polynut
7
What would not work at all with the 580 since i recently switch to Blender from 3ds max so i am not familiar yet with cycle and Eevee?
polynut
8
After some more research i found this Blender link showing features support by both cuda and opencl so i think it is on par except for the 1 min kernel thing that the new programer is suppose to fix.
https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/render/cycles/features.html
yaycreative
(Benedikt Steinle)
9
I guess you’re on windows, but I am really having a hard time getting my Rx 580 with open cl to work with blender on Linux mint. It really could be you’re on a safer route with NVIDIA for now. I got mine dirt cheap as well, but after all those struggles I would have probably made a different decision. Though the 8GB are pretty nice for cycles.
polynut
10
Yep exactly that 6 GB is just a bit short and yes i am on Windows 10 so an AMD should be just fine.
polynut
11
Last question since i could not find any clear answer on this;
Will 6 gb of vram be enough?
polynut
12
Well since i have a Dell U2312hm monitor i am also not sure if the rtx 2060 would work since there is no dvi connector anyone can shed some light on this?
Zoot
13
HDMI and DVI are electrically compatible so all you need is an HDMI to DVI-D cable for like $6 from Amazon and you’re good to go assuming the card has HDMI out.
6GB of VRAM should be fine for basic to medium sized stuff. I wouldn’t recommend anything less than that these days. I think you’ll be fine with 6GB. Worst case you cant throw quite as many huge textures at it compared to an 8 or 11GB card.
I don’t know of anything the 580 won’t be able to do. I personally still think Nvidia has the edge for being the most widely supported solution, but AMD has been actively supporting Blender development and it should be well supported.
Cycles OpenCL rendering compiles shaders each time you render so that’s an extra overhead that you have to sit through (this is actively being worked on and is improving) whereas I think the Nvidia CUDA kernels are monolithic and pre-built so there’s no compilation step at render time which means no delay so that’s another CUDA/Nvidia advantage.
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polynut
14
Thank a lot for that very well documented post this is going to help me choosing the correct card for my need.
Regarding the HDMI to DVI-D adapter would this one be the correct cable ;
https://www.infinitecables.com/dvi/dvi-cables/dvi-to-hdmi-cables/dvi-d-male-to-hdmi-male-cable-cl2-ft4-28awg—3ft-dvi-d-male-to-hdmi-male-cable-cl2-ft4-28awg/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwsZ3kBRCnARIsAIuAV_SU_8_AUg7G5-J2ygAvGZlOEzgW3nBdTEX6JspgdEnBdM1LiPoCvJUaAlBFEALw_wcB
polynut
15
Here the specs from my monitor and i am not sure but there is mention of one hdmi port but the way my monitor is install it is a chore to remove and go see if it has one ;
https://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/review/dell/ultrasharp_u2312hm/406563/specs/
Zoot
16
I think that cable would work.
If the monitor turns out to have an HDMI input then of course you could use that instead, but the result would likely be the same.
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polynut
17
Hi Pixelfox and thank again for the reply and finally after a bunch of confusion and new info since i didn’t upgrade anything for years i was in for a lot of catch up regarding connectors and ports!
What i thought was a HDMI was in fact a display port so i think this will not work if connect to the HDMI port on the card.
Some people also mention about having 144 mhz refresh rate and that it is requiring a 100$ special DVI adapter but it’s seem to be mostly for people who want 4 k and my need are only for 1080 and i have dual monitor of course, so again i am confuse by too much information.
Never thought it was going to be a challenge just to upgrade my card!
chalybeum
(Markus Mayer)
18
144hz in 4K over DVI? I believe you got something mixed up.
You really shouldn’t care about that.
Zoot
19
If your monitor has DisplayPort then many modern video cards will have this as well so that’s a good option for connecting them. Different 2060 cards have different ports, they’re not all the same, so be sure the one you’re looking at has the port(s) you want for your monitor (and future monitors).
Unless you want more than 60 Hz refresh rate you don’t need to worry about anything. If you want faster than that then you should research the specific combination of video card, monitor, and connection method to verify that it will do what you want. Honestly 60Hz is just fine and I wouldn’t worry about it.
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polynut
20
You are right since natively my old dell only support 60 HZ!
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Radeon RX 580 vs GeForce RTX 2060
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XFX GTS Radeon RX 580 8GB TripleX Edition
ASUS DUAL GeForce RTX 2060 O6G EVO
Výkon
Rozhraní
Technologie
Chlazení
Parametry
Porovnání parametrů
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XFX GTS Radeon RX 580 8GB TripleX Edition |
ASUS DUAL GeForce RTX 2060 O6G EVO |
|
| Model | Radeon RX 580 | GeForce RTX 2060 |
| Výrobce | AMD | NVIDIA |
| Grafický procesor | Polaris 20 | TU106 |
| Architektura |
GCN 4. 0
|
Turing |
| Počet stream procesorů | 2304 x | 1920 x |
| Výrobní technologie | 14 nm | 12 nm |
| Velikost paměti | 8 GB | 6 GB |
| Typ paměti | GDDR5 | GDDR6 |
| Šířka sběrnice | 256 bit | 192 bit |
| Frekvence jádra | 1366 MHz | 1365 MHz |
| Frekvence jádra (Boost) | 1386 MHz | 1785 MHz |
| Frekvence paměti | 8000 MHz | 14000 MHz |
| PC rozhraní |
PCI Express x16 3. 0
|
PCI Express x16 3.0 |
| Připojení displeje | DisplayPort 1.4, DVI-D, HDMI 2.0b | DisplayPort 1.4, DVI-D, HDMI 2.0b |
| Konektorů displeje | 5 x | 4 x |
| Max. počet monitorů | 5 x | 4 x |
| Podpora zapojení více karet | ||
| Typ zapojení více karet | AMD CrossFire Technology |
| DirectX | 12 | 12 |
| OpenGl |
4. 5
|
4.6 |
| Typ chlazení | Aktivní | Aktivní |
| Počet ventilátorů | 2 x | 2 x |
| Požadovaný výkon zdroje | 550 W | 500 W |
| Přídavné napájení | 1x 8-pin | 1x 8-pin |
| Šířka | 270 mm | 242 mm |
| Výška | 40 mm | 53 mm |
| Hloubka | 124 mm | 130 mm |
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?
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Mafia Definitive Edition
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GeForce RTX 2060
104 fps
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 vs Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition comparison
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060
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Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition
Rating: 23 points
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- Passmark score
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Passmark test score
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition: 7642
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060: 13598
GPU base clock
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition: 1257 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060: 1365 MHz
RAM
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition: 8 GB
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060: 6 GB
Memory Bandwidth
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition: 256 GB/s
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060: 336 GB/s
Effective memory speed
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition: 8000 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060: 14000 MHz
Description
The Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition graphics card is based on the GCN 4.
0 architecture. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 on the Turing architecture. The first has 5700 million transistors. The second is 10800 million. The Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition has a transistor size of 14nm versus 12.
The base clock speed for the first video card is 1257 MHz versus 1365 MHz for the second.
Let’s move on to memory. Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition has 8 GB. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 has 8 GB installed. The bandwidth of the first video card is 256 Gb / s versus 336 Gb / s of the second.
FLOPS of Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition is 6.44. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6.3.
Moves to benchmark tests. In the Passmark Sapphire Nitro+ benchmark, the Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition scored 7642 points. And here is the second card 13598 points. In 3DMark, the first model scored No data points. The second 18951 points.
For interfaces. The first video card is connected using PCIe 3.0 x16. The second is PCIe 3.
0 x16. The graphics card Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition has Directx version 12. OpenGL version 4.5. The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 graphics card has Directx version 12. OpenGL version 4.6.
Why NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 is better than Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition
The graphics processing unit (GPU) has a high clock speed.
1257MHz
max 2459
Average: 1124.9 MHz
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Average: 1124.9 MHz
GPU memory frequency
This is an important aspect calculating memory bandwidth
2000MHz
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Average: 1468 MHz
1750MHz
max 16000
Average: 1468 MHz
FLOPS
The measurement of processing power of a processor is called FLOPS.
6.44TFLOPS
max 1142.32
Average: 53 TFLOPS
6.3TFLOPS
max 1142.32
Average: 53 TFLOPS
RAM
8GB
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Average: 4.6 GB
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Average: 4.6 GB
Turbo GPU
If the GPU speed drops below its limit, it can switch to a high clock speed to improve performance.
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Average: 1514 MHz
1680MHz
max 2903
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Texture size
A certain number of textured pixels are displayed on the screen every second.
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max 756.8
Average: 145.4 GTexels/s
201.6 GTexels/s
max 756.8
Average: 145.4 GTexels/s
Architecture name
GCN 4.0
Touring
Graphic processor name
Polaris 20
TU106
memory capacity
This is the speed with which the device saves or reads information.
256GB/s
max 2656
Average: 257.8 GB/s
336GB/s
max 2656
Average: 257.8 GB/s
Effective memory speed
The effective memory clock speed is calculated from the size and information transfer rate of the memory.
The performance of the device in applications depends on the clock frequency. The higher it is, the better.
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8000MHz
max 19500
Average: 6984.5 MHz
14000MHz
max 19500
Average: 6984.5 MHz
RAM
8GB
max 128
Average: 4.6 GB
6 GB
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Average: 4.6 GB
GDDR Memory Versions
Latest GDDR memory versions provide high data transfer rates to improve overall performance
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5
Mean: 4.9
6
Mean: 4.
9
Memory bus width
A wide memory bus means that it can transfer more information in one cycle. This property affects the performance of the memory as well as the overall performance of the device’s graphics card.
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256bit
max 8192
Average: 283.9bit
192bit
max 8192
Average: 283.9bit
Heat dissipation (TDP)
Heat dissipation requirement (TDP) is the maximum amount of energy that can be dissipated by the cooling system. The lower the TDP, the less power will be consumed.
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185W
Average value: 160 W
160W
Average value: 160 W
Process technology
The small size of the semiconductor means it is a new generation chip.
14 nm
Average: 34.7 nm
12 nm
Average: 34.7 nm
Number of transistors
The higher their number, the more processor power it indicates
5700 million
max 80000
Average: 7150 million
10800 million
max 80000
Average: 7150 million
PCIe version
Considerable speed is provided by the expansion card used to connect the computer to peripherals. The updated versions have impressive throughput and provide high performance.
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3
Average: 3
3
Average: 3
Width
260mm
max 421.
7
Average: 192.1mm
228.6mm
max 421.7
Average: 192.1mm
Height
135mm
max 619
Average: 89.6mm
112.6mm
max 619
Average: 89.6mm
DirectX
Used in demanding games providing enhanced graphics
12
max 12.2
Mean: 11.4
12
max 12.2
Mean: 11.4
OpenCL version
Used by some applications to enable GPU power for non-graphical calculations.
The newer the version, the more functional it will be
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2
max 4.6
Average: 2.2
3
max 4.6
Average: 2.2
opengl version
Later versions provide better game graphics
4.5
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Average: 4.2
4.6
max 4.6
Average: 4.2
Shader model version
6.4
max 6.6
Average: 5.9
6.6
max 6.6
Average: 5.
9
Vulkan version
1.2
1.3
Has HDMI output
HDMI output allows you to connect devices with HDMI or mini-HDMI ports. They can transmit video and audio to the display.
Full text
Yes
Yes
HDMI version
The latest version provides a wide signal transmission channel due to the increased number of audio channels, frames per second, etc.
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2
max 2.1
Mean: 1.9
2
max 2.1
Mean: 1.9
DisplayPort
Allows connection to a display using DisplayPort
2
Average: 2. 2
2
Average: 2.2
DVI outputs
Allows connection to a display using DVI
1
Mean: 1.4
1
Mean: 1.4
Number of HDMI sockets
The more there are, the more devices can be connected at the same time (for example, game/TV type consoles)
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2
Average: 1.1
1
Average: 1.1
Interface
PCIE 3.0 X16
PCIe 3.0 X16
HDMI
There is
9000
7642
max 29325
Average: 7628.
6
13598
max 29325
Average: 7628.6
FAQ
How does the Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition perform in benchmarks?
Passmark Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition scored 7642 points. The second video card in Passmark scored 13598 points.
What is the FLOPS of video cards?
FLOPS Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition is 6.44 TFLOPS. But the second video card FLOPS is 6.3 TFLOPS.
What is the energy consumption?
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition 185 Watt. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 160 Watt.
How fast are Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060?
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition runs at 1257 MHz. In this case, the maximum frequency reaches 1450 MHz. The base clock frequency of the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 reaches 1365 MHz.
In turbo mode it reaches 1680 MHz.
What kind of memory do graphics cards have?
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition supports GDDR5. Installed 8 GB of RAM. The throughput reaches 256 GB/s. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 works with GDDR6. The second has 6 GB of RAM. Its throughput is 256 GB/s.
How many HDMI connectors do they have?
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition has 2 HDMI outputs. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 is equipped with 1 HDMI outputs.
Which power connectors are used?
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition uses No data. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 is equipped with No HDMI outputs.
What architecture are the graphics cards based on?
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition is based on GCN 4.0. The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 uses the Turing architecture.
Which graphic processor is used?
Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB Limited Edition is equipped with Polaris 20.