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Temperature and power consumption

Since both the cards we’re reviewing today use the same MSI cooler, their temperature figures should be quite comparable. The Radeon RX 580 ran 5°C hotter than the GeForce GTX 1060, which is probably unsurprising given its much higher power draw and TDP (the NVIDIA card has just a 120 watt TDP compared to the Radeon RX 580’s 155 watts).

It also posted a total system power consumption figure of 300 watts, higher than the Radeon RX 480 as well.

As it turns out, these results are actually testament to how efficient NVIDIA’s Pascal architecture is as it managed to run cooler and consume less power while offering similar performance.

 

Overclocking

We used MSI’s Afterburner utility to overclock the cards, and here’s a table summarizing the clock speeds we managed to achieve.






  Base clock Boost clock Memory clock
MSI Radeon RX 580 Gaming X+ 8G 1,500MHz — 8,880MHz
MSI GeForce GTX 1060 Gaming X+ 6G 1,669MHz 1,895MHz 9,448MHz
Aorus Radeon RX 570 4G 1,440MHz — 7,600MHz
PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 480 1,330MHz — 8,100MHz

The Radeon RX 580 overclocked surprisingly well, and this was a nice change considering the lackluster results we had with the Radeon RX 480. What’s more, the Radeon RX 570 took quite well to overclocking as well, so AMD clearly has made some much-appreciated tweaks in its second-generation Polaris architecture.

Ultimately, we achieved between 5 and 6 per cent increase in Fire Strike for the GeForce GTX 1060 and Radeon RX 580 respectively. The proportionate increase was similar in Fire Strike Extreme as well, so there’s still a tiny bit of performance to squeeze out of these cards with overclocking.

Having said that, the Radeon RX 570 deserves special mention, as we managed to get a 12 per cent performance boost in Fire Strike after overclocking, which is quite impressive for a card of its class.  

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stargazer

06-17-2020, 02:48 AM

I have an HDX card in my MacPro5,1.

Looking at a Radeon RX 580 8GB Graphics Upgrade for Mac Pro 2010-2012.

https://macpatric.com/products/amd-radeon-rx-580-8gb-graphics-upgrade-for-mac-pro-2010-2012?_pos=76&_sid=762c29d8b&_ss=r

The graphics card needs both of the two connectors on the motherboard. (PCIE AUX A / PCIE AUX B), but the HDX card uses the first one.

Anybody with a similar setup and a solution?

AE

06-17-2020, 11:52 AM

in my (admittedly hazy) recollection i believe i sold the graphics card that was supplied with my MP and replaced it with a card that only required a single power connection. i don’t recall that there was an option that supported the upgrade you’re looking at.

stargazer

06-17-2020, 01:20 PM

Searched this forum, but got more confused…

Some possible solutions I can think of:

1. Compatible graphics card that supports 3840×2160 that only needs one power cable.

2. Expansion chassis.

3. External power for the graphics card.

4. Share one of the connectors (PCIE AUX A or PCIE AUX B) if there is enough power for both cards.

5. eGPU (But I guess there is no way to install that on a MacPro5,1)

AE

06-17-2020, 01:52 PM

i ended up with the Radeon HD 5770; works fine driving two monitors but only at 1920 x 1080.

stargazer

06-17-2020, 02:13 PM

Is the Radeon HD 5770 Mojave compatible (Metal)?

Whats the solution if you run only one display?

JFreak

06-17-2020, 02:27 PM

Is the Radeon HD 5770 Mojave compatible (Metal)?

Whats the solution if you run only one display?

No (https://www. pro-tools-expert.com/production-expert-1/2018/6/12/how-do-you-find-mojave-compatible-graphics-cards-for-cheese-grater-apple-mac-pro-51-computers).

stargazer

06-17-2020, 02:51 PM

Ok, thanks!

DetroitT

06-20-2020, 06:41 AM

Hi. I use the 580 mac video card.com flashed
The two mini 6pin pcie power to 8 pin video.
Power split / spliced to avid 4 pin hdx
2-evo ssd’s, 2-10tb spinners
Hdx1
I’ve been using this split 8 yr or so since the
Original 5870 card, 7950 now the 580

Mac video cards also offers a single power cable solution (6 pin to 8 pin)

stargazer

06-20-2020, 08:44 AM

Thanks DetroitT!

Im gonna contact Mac Video Cards.

stargazer

06-24-2020, 02:40 AM

Are there any Mojave compatible graphics card that only needs one power cable available?

DetroitT

06-24-2020, 06:22 AM

Are there any Mojave compatible graphics card that only needs one power cable available?
Apple has a list.
Some are not flashed like the AMD Radeon Pro WX7100
1-6pin power

Padje

07-08-2020, 09:07 AM

MSI Radeon 560 Aero ITX 4G

No startup screen. Not flashable as I know, but besides that, works like a charm on a Mac Pro 5.1 with HDX and UAD, all drive bays occupied, 4k screen.

epm

07-22-2020, 07:11 AM

Are there any Mojave compatible graphics card that only needs one power cable available?

As Padje mentioned the MSI Radeon 560 Aero ITX 4G is (imo) the best solution.

4k Support, fully PCI powered.

No startup screen, but Recovery mode works so I don’t see any need for flashing. I’d keep your 5770 or whatever mac card you have just in case, but the 560 is a perfect fit for these machines, and can be found for about $170ish.

RossH

09-27-2020, 02:03 PM

Hi. I use the 580 mac video card.com flashed

The two mini 6pin pcie power to 8 pin video.

Power split / spliced to avid 4 pin hdx

2-evo ssds, 2-10tb spinners

Hdx1

Ive been using this split 8 yr or so since the

Original 5870 card, 7950 now the 580

Mac video cards also offers a single power cable solution (6 pin to 8 pin)

Hi DetroitT, I’ve seen you mention your «power split» solution in a couple threads on here. Can you provide more detail on how you did that?

I have a 2012 Mac Pro that I want to upgrade the 5770 to an RX580, but am struggling to figure out the power requirements as I also have a single HDX card. And I don’t want to add an external power supply, I’m just trying to get another year out of my system.

Thanks for any info.

Hugh-H

09-30-2020, 02:25 PM

Hello RossH,

For our MP5,1 + RX580 + HDX3 installations initially I wired the harnesses, one MP 6-pin to the RX580, the other MP 6-pin to both the RX580 and the HDX3 harness. The thought in my head was that the RX580 requires high current and the reason most power harnesses are dual-6pin is to allow for the high currents, less voltage drop.

However I did some voltage and current testing and perhaps the dual 6-pin source is advised for high end graphics software but for audio software and video rendering, it’s not necessary. So to make it easier for our other users we purchased single 6-pin to 8-pin harnesses for the RX580 installations, and the other 6-pin on the MP is for the HDX3. Works fine.

Here is the link we purchased that works —

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OSLGQGE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Good luck.

Hugh

RossH

10-02-2020, 08:39 AM

Hi Hugh, thanks for the response.

Which RX580 are you using? The ones I’ve seen only have one 8 pin power port. I’m planning to get a Sapphire RX580, I guess mostly because it’s on Apple’s (now archived) list of supported cards.

I do use Adobe Creative Cloud apps on this Mac, so I think I will need both mini 6 pin ports for the single 8 pin connector. I also want to drive at least 3 monitors (can only use two on my 5770) if that matters.

I’ll plan to power the HDX card off a SATA port or two. I’ve contacted Avid support to try and track down the HDX power cable for PC with the Molex connector on it, I don’t seem to have the original box anymore. But I haven’t heard back just yet. There is a US-based site that sells them online, and there’s one from the UK on eBay. Can’t find any in Canada.

clubber

03-31-2021, 07:58 PM

Folks, I am about the pull the trigger for an HDX card and I have an RX580 4 GB in a 5,1. I am not very familiar with power cables and stuff that needs to be connected to the mainboard and the cards. Please help me out.
I remember having to buy this power cable in order to connect the RX580: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07V4GGS43/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

clubber

04-01-2021, 06:23 AM

Hi. I use the 580 mac video card.com flashed

The two mini 6pin pcie power to 8 pin video.

Power split / spliced to avid 4 pin hdx

2-evo ssds, 2-10tb spinners

Hdx1

Ive been using this split 8 yr or so since the

Original 5870 card, 7950 now the 580

Mac video cards also offers a single power cable solution (6 pin to 8 pin)

Hi, can you please elaborate on this ‘power split solution»? How do you do that?

Thank you.

hugoleitao

04-05-2021, 06:42 PM

Hi

Just got HDX card but my nVidia GTX 680 2GB Mac EFI is using both PSU ports.

I’m on a 2009 mac pro 3.46.

Can anyone tell I to get power working for both please?

innerbooty

04-21-2021, 09:03 AM

Hi,
Chiming in here also looking for I believe the splitter solution. I am new to HDX and have been slowly configuring a 2009 4,1 Mac Pro for HDX. I flashed to 5,1. Got High Sierra installed. HDX installed. Pro Tools 2021. All working great. I bought an AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB GPU pre-flashed for Mac that I thought I would install today so I could get a 2nd drive running Mojave. I quickly hit the roadblock of realizing this GPU card requires both PCIe power slots, and one is taken by up the HDX card. Is there a way to work around this? Specific details would be super appreciated! Mike Thornton on Pro Tools Expert describes buy a 6 to 8 PIN adapter, but he glosses over the installation of that part and I am not sure which adapter to get, or where it is supposed to get plugged in. Presumably the port that the current stock graphics card is using? The new GPU required one 8 pin and one 6 pin connection.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

drums77

04-21-2021, 11:21 AM

MSI Radeon 560 Aero ITX 4G

No startup screen. Not flashable as I know, but besides that, works like a charm on a Mac Pro 5.1 with HDX and UAD, all drive bays occupied, 4k screen.

Same here.

innerbooty

04-21-2021, 11:35 AM

So, do your GPUs only need one of the mini 6 pin PCie power ports? My Radeon needs two, and Im trying to figure out how to make that work with the HDX taking one. Thanks!!

drums77

04-21-2021, 01:12 PM

So, do your GPUs only need one of the mini 6 pin PCie power ports? My Radeon needs two, and I’m trying to figure out how to make that work with the HDX taking one. Thanks!!

My Radeon RX 560(MSI) don’t requires any power. Only the PCI Express connection.

LDS

04-21-2021, 03:08 PM

So, do your GPUs only need one of the mini 6 pin PCie power ports? My Radeon needs two, and Im trying to figure out how to make that work with the HDX taking one. Thanks!!

Its really just a case of looking at the power consumption specs of your specific GPU, and calculating how much power you really need to power the stuff. The wattage provided by 6-pin and 8-pin pcie aux power is standardised (cant remember the exact spec, but its easily googleable). An HDX card only needs something like 40watts.

Powering options are 1×6 pin to 2x 6-pin splitters, 4 pin molex to 6-pin to use the power in the 5.25 driver bay, or even Sata to 6-pin to use the power from a spare hard drive slot. The cable you need really depends on how much power your GPU plus HDX card draws. Pay close attention to the male/female orientation of cables. Its a bit of a minefield.

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