Windows 7 on X570 with Ryzen 5 — is it possible?
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There’s a great thread on here about fixing Windows 7 on X470 boards but I’m wondering if anyone has successfully installed Windows 7 on X570 boards with Ryzen 5?
I’m aware it will generally work if you install using a PS/2 mouse/keyboard, but what about the motherboard/chipset drivers?
Please refrain from commenting «use Windows 10» or asking «why do you want to do this» as it has been said 10,000 times.
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metalbanana said:
There’s a great thread on here about fixing Windows 7 on X470 boards but I’m wondering if anyone has successfully installed Windows 7 on X570 boards with Ryzen 5?
I’m aware it will generally work if you install using a PS/2 mouse/keyboard, but what about the motherboard/chipset drivers?
Please refrain from commenting «use Windows 10» or asking «why do you want to do this» as it has been said 10,000 times.
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There is a chipset driver to use on W7, and another one for W10.
On my previous posts I gave a link for installing W7 on a X570. A straight forward way.
Never installed it for ryzen 5000s, because I’m still using Ryzen 3000s.
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metalbanana said:
There’s a great thread on here about fixing Windows 7 on X470 boards but I’m wondering if anyone has successfully installed Windows 7 on X570 boards with Ryzen 5?
I’m aware it will generally work if you install using a PS/2 mouse/keyboard, but what about the motherboard/chipset drivers?
Please refrain from commenting «use Windows 10» or asking «why do you want to do this» as it has been said 10,000 times.
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I used this tool
It inject usb drivers and nvme support files from Microsoft into a iso of windows7 sp1. The final iso is flashed into an usb drive. The result usb bootable drive detects almost all usb ports even in installation and the nvme drives too. I followed a similar procedure to that explained by Zhadoom in the post above to install Win7 on an X570 Aorus Master (extra PITA as that board lacks PS/2). The Cannonkong USB3 drivers work fine, and system runs like a charm. CPU is Ryzen 3600X.
Good to know that Ryzen 5000s also work fine, I’ll get one when prices drop into sanity. Thanks for the info Zhadoom.
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metalbanana said:
There’s a great thread on here about fixing Windows 7 on X470 boards but I’m wondering if anyone has successfully installed Windows 7 on X570 boards with Ryzen 5?
I’m aware it will generally work if you install using a PS/2 mouse/keyboard, but what about the motherboard/chipset drivers?
Please refrain from commenting «use Windows 10» or asking «why do you want to do this» as it has been said 10,000 times.
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I did an in-place Win7 upgrade to an Asus Tuf Gaming x570 mobo running a Ryzen 5 3600 CPU. Obtainable USB3 and Sata drivers work fine, and I had no trouble installing a 1TB M.2 SSD. Moreover, the system runs beautifully. But MS/Asus/AMD et al, blocked driver installation for the mobo’s onboard LAN, wifi, bluetooth, audio, and LED-controller devices. If anybody figures out how to install the drivers for an x570 mobo’s peripheral devices (as listed above), please chime in.
You can reportedly install all devices on MSI MEG x570 ACE mobo, even when running a Ryzen 9 3xxx CPU, but the host of the below-referenced video «glossed over» the details fairly quickly. Judge for yourself.
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AMD could’ve provided a simple chipset update that allows all of their current and previous chipsets, to operate with any earlier version of Redmond.
That alone could have provided a FREE choice to most buyers out there to switch on over to AMD. That would also help to increase numbers of people using AMD Hardware.
Suspect the thinking at AMD now, just like with Intel, is to reduce the choice of Operating Systems, forever more, despite falling number of users.
Hence, pure Logic is dead at AMD for future sales and usage.
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It’s not so much AMD but the mobo manufacturers. If they, the OEMs, offered a W7 chipset, then you’re good to go. Case in point; I have a GA-AX370-Gaming K5, which supports W7 and has a Ryzen 5 3600 along with a Nvidia 1080 (driver needs to be installed manually). Excellent gamer and rock solid.
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It’s not so much AMD but the mobo manufacturers.
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Which are directed by AMD, otherwise the manufacturers would all go into Intel and ignore AMD altogether. Would be cheaper to just support a single platform.
AMD chipset updates all ignore W7 and even W8. Despite, they are the ones providing updated chipset drivers for all the AMD users out there.
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If they, the OEMs, offered a W7 chipset, then you’re good to go.
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Copy-paste download from AMD central. OEM don’t design or develop anything in software any more, besides their awful bloatware to buy more junk — HP, Dell and Lenovo.
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Case in point; I have a GA-AX370-Gaming K5, which supports W7 and has a Ryzen 5 3600 along with a Nvidia 1080 (driver needs to be installed manually). Excellent gamer and rock solid.
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Ancient hardware, no longer sold in any shop today. Why not use a current 5700X or a 5800X3D on a x570 or B550 setup? That would perform extremely quickly on any updated Windows 7 system, without trouble.
Remember that Windows 7 did not have embedded data collection, hence it was far more stable compared to this useless junkware of Windows 11, which constantly streams your data to Redmond Central.
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Which are directed by AMD, otherwise the manufacturers would all go into Intel and ignore AMD altogether. Would be cheaper to just support a single platform.
AMD chipset updates all ignore W7 and even W8. Despite, they are the ones providing updated chipset drivers for all the AMD users out there.
Copy-paste download from AMD central. OEM don’t design or develop anything in software any more, besides their awful bloatware to buy more junk — HP, Dell and Lenovo.
Ancient hardware, no longer sold in any shop today. Why not use a current 5700X or a 5800X3D on a x570 or B550 setup? That would perform extremely quickly on any updated Windows 7 system, without trouble.
Remember that Windows 7 did not have embedded data collection, hence it was far more stable compared to this useless junkware of Windows 11, which constantly streams your data to Redmond Central.
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You must understand that Microsoft is calling the shots. What MS says in the way of OS support is the standard these days. AMD and Gigabyte did come up with a somewhat solution to installing W7 on modern boards with their USB 3.0 workaround, but you still need chipset drivers. You may have the time and energy to piece together a workable chipset but the easy way out is an older mobo which accepts the Ryzen, like the one I previously mentioned. BTW, I’m getting ready to install a 5900X in the «ancient» GA-AX370 as it’s recently had a compatible BIOS update. The 370 is a good and solid platform for W7. Runs all games up to an including DX11. Also, there are a few DX12 games, like CP77, which have be ported to DX11 (at least the GOG version).
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Last time I tried was on 3700x and x470 MB, W7 worked better in Virtual Machine (VMware) in W10 host than on bare metal.
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.. Good to know that Ryzen 5000s also work fine, I’ll get one when prices drop into sanity …
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And here comes the 5800X :
Works like a charm, and W7 runs lightning quick on it.
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Windows 7 is always far quicker in every aspect, compared to the bloatware currently being forced onto people across this Planet.
Those that are forced to use 10 and 11 have never experienced truly FAST operating system in their unfortunate lives. When W7 is installed and used, they then change their minds instead of sipping any more Redmond Coolaid Propaganda.
Windows 11 is truly awful, yet the exorbitant Gas-Lighting of that operating system is continuing……throughout the Mass Media.
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Windows 7 on X570 chipset Ryzen 9 5950X?
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Windows 7 on the latest ryzen cpu and amd chipset is indeed possible.
How to do it. You’ll need an older computer and a ssd/hdd. Just simply put the ssd into an old computer, install windows 7 on that computer and when you get to this point. unplug the ssd/hdd and put it into the main computer. you’ll need to use a PS2 mouse since windows 7 wouldn’t recognize a X570 chipset motherboard without special drivers. It’ll work with a PS2 mouse and you’ll need to use the on screen keyboard.
You’ll need to download a few things to get Windows 7 fully working
-Microsoft Visual C++ 2015
-Windows 7 update KB4474419
-Special chipset driver and USB Driver software. tutorial and drivers can be found in the description of this video
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-Wufuc, disables the «unsupported hardware» message.
All that’s left to do is install the updates and nvidia/amd gpu drivers! Very impressive that it’s possible to install windows 7 on X570 and ryzen 5000 cpus. The process is very lengthy, ecspecially having to swap the ssd out between computers, I’d recommend just installing windows 7 on the old computer, put it in the new computer and complete the setup, put the ssd in another computer and copy the files to the desktop, then put it back in the X570 board, this would make it way easier. Excited for getting windows 7 installed on 6000 ryzen series!
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Windows 7 on the latest ryzen cpu and amd chipset is indeed possible.
How to do it. You’ll need an older computer and a ssd/hdd. Just simply put the ssd into an old computer, install windows 7 on that computer and when you get to this point. unplug the ssd/hdd and put it into the main computer.
you’ll need to use a PS2 mouse since windows 7 wouldn’t recognize a X570 chipset motherboard without special drivers. It’ll work with a PS2 mouse and you’ll need to use the on screen keyboard.
You’ll need to download a few things to get Windows 7 fully working
-Microsoft Visual C++ 2015
-Windows 7 update KB4474419
-Special chipset driver and USB Driver software. tutorial and drivers can be found in the description of this video
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-Wufuc, disables the «unsupported hardware» message.All that’s left to do is install the updates and nvidia/amd gpu drivers! Very impressive that it’s possible to install windows 7 on X570 and ryzen 5000 cpus. The process is very lengthy, ecspecially having to swap the ssd out between computers, I’d recommend just installing windows 7 on the old computer, put it in the new computer and complete the setup, put the ssd in another computer and copy the files to the desktop, then put it back in the X570 board, this would make it way easier.
Excited for getting windows 7 installed on 6000 ryzen series!
Stay safe!
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How to get Ryzen to work on Windows 7 x64
AMD doesn’t officially support Ryzen processors on Windows 7. Given that Microsoft has effectively ended support for the OS, that’s exactly what we’d expect from AMD — Intel has also officially stopped supporting Windows 7 on the latest platforms. «Official» is a general term: some specific customers may receive extended lifetime support, or drivers that are currently missing from the ecosystem are still running on the platforms. Official support refers to driver updates and possibly security updates, but there is nothing stopping you from trying to install an OS on a system or platform.
For clarification, we did not speak to AMD at the time of writing this article. AMD’s official stance on Windows 7 on Ryzen is that it’s not supported, and as a result, that means they won’t provide support around it. There may also be other ways to install an unsupported OS, however there are several solutions.
Main problem: USB support
For Windows 7 installations, problems are usually related to USB support. Once a mouse/keyboard is connected, everything else after that is usually easy to set up (installing drivers, etc.). However, due to 100 series chipsets on Intel and AM4 motherboards on AMD, this can be a problem. When using a CD or USB drive to install the OS, the image requires USB drivers to enable the mouse or keyboard to navigate through the installation menu. This is a core process that does not run on both platforms and acts as a barrier to installation.
General solution: use a PS/2 keyboard if the motherboard has a PS/2 port
By default, on most systems, the way to ensure that a mouse pointer or keyboard activity is present during installation is to plug in a PS/2 keyboard. I never didn’t know the install wouldn’t be able to recognize the PS/2 peripheral so this is often the best choice. However, PS/2 as a connection standard is nearly dead (sometimes new keyboards offer dual connectivity, like one of my Rosewill mechanical keyboards), with fewer motherboards supporting it, and it falls to USB as a backup.
GIGABYTE AX370 Gaming 5 with PS/2 port
The main reason PS/2 should work where there is no USB has to do with protocol. PS/2 uses interrupts through the system, compared to USB which is based on polling. This results in different levels of interaction: a PS/2 keyboard enters its commands, but this means no support for n-key rollover, whereas a USB keyboard will bind its commands and send them when the system asks for it. Unfortunately, the latter requires the default driver to be able to do this.
(As a general rule, always use USB 2.0 ports. They will most likely be supported based on USB 3.0, which may require chipset drivers.)
Problems faced by users who want to install Windows 7 who do not have a PS port /2 or peripherals, which come in two flavors:
Problem 1: Installing Windows 7
With Intel on the Z170 series and above, it was a case where USB 2.0 had to be emulated via the BIOS option to install Windows 7, due to removal of EHCI support. A couple of weeks later when motherboard manufacturers started rolling out BIOS/EFI updates for each of their products and enabling this option allowed users to have a keyboard during a standard install.
However, from personal experience, this actually worked when installing Window 7 from a CD instead of a USB stick. Somehow using a database USB stick will invalidate the presence of a mouse/keyboard over USB during the installation process.
With AMD it’s a bit tricky. There is no EHCI emulation. But apparently it comes down to where the USB ports come from.
Potential solution for 1.1 install: Use USB 2.0 port on chipset
According to some documents obtained by AnandTech, AMD BIOS considers USB ports from the CPU (because the CPU is a SoC) and USB ports from the chipset 300 on- differently. From what we’ve seen, USB support is supported on chipset ports, but not on processor-based ports. Ryzen is a bit different from previous desktop platforms as it can have USB ports from both. For example, here is the layout of the Bristol Range processor and B350 chipset, each showing USB ports.
USB ports from the chipset must be natively supported in a Windows 7 installation, allowing users to have access during OS installation via USB or via CD. But finding which ports on your device are supported by the chipset and not the processor can be tricky, especially if the motherboard manufacturer doesn’t provide a block diagram of the onboard paths and controllers. There is also the fact that embedded headers can be chipset based, requiring the use of cables from the header to the port.
However, this method described in the docs did not work on my Crosshair VI Hero. It may work on other boards, but not here.
Even if this works, there could be a big problem when it comes to accessing the OS, as explained next.
Possible solution for installation 1.2: use Windows 7 unattended Install
For users who customize their operating system packages using tools available on the Internet, silent installation usually covers this entire scenario. Unsupervised until an additional entrance is required, it should swim straight ahead. Of course, this method usually means that the drive you want to use is ready to use (with proper settings and partitioning). Experienced users familiar with this method will be handy here.
Possible Solution for Install 1.3: Install Windows 7 First on Another System
In our initial Ryzen review, to get SYSMark numbers to match those in our database, this is the method I had to use. To do this, we had to bend one of our more rigid rules.
It should be noted that installing a Windows OS on one system and moving the disk to another is a bad idea. As part of the installation, Windows will detect which system you are using and install the base drivers for that system, for that processor, and for that chipset. This creates clutter and confusion when moving a drive to another system, which is why we usually suggest that the new system get a fresh OS install to help with this. While still a bad idea, a new operating system is easier to manage than a fully loaded, well-used OS.
So for this method for our review, due to the timing of the events, I had access to the Sandy Bridge system. I did a basic install of Windows 7 x64 Professional using a USB stick on a Z77 motherboard with an R7 240 graphics card and didn’t install any additional drivers when booting the OS.
But there is a second question.
Issue 2: USB drivers enabled Windows 7
300 series based chipsets are identical to those offered by Bristol Ridge and based in part on Carrizo hardware and as a result Windows 7 Drivers for these platforms work with AM4 to support the core chipset . Audio and Network drivers are a slightly different kettle of fish, and you might have to go hunting for Windows 7 variants of those.
If you installed Windows 7 via a PS/2 keyboard and mouse, the operating system should be able to access the hardware and installing drivers should be easy.
The drivers that worked on launch day are Crimson ReLive 17.2.1 Chipset Drivers from March 3rd. The following links are for 64-bit versions.
- Most modern: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/chipset?os=Windows+10+-+64
- Previous versions: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/chipset/previous?os=Windows%2010%20-%2064
However, the USB redundancy methods for 1.2 and 1.3 described above do not take into account the actual presence of USB drivers in Windows 7 for Ryzen. Windows 7 There may be some underlying driver that will allow users to access the hardware, but this is not guaranteed. There is a reliable method for this.
Windows 7 USB 2.
1 Driver Installation: Integrating Drivers into Silent Install
For an advanced user familiar with adding installation packages or driver packages to OS images, the following drivers extracted from the above files should be:
- USB30_ZP
- USB31_PT
Paste this into your OS image and the USB ports will work. Otherwise…
Windows 7 USB Driver Install 2.2: Installing Drivers to Boot at Boot
This is the method I used to install the drivers. The main condition for the OS is the installation of drivers when the OS boots. All of these steps must be performed on a secondary system that Windows 7 has installed, except for the last couple of instructions.
(Step 1) Download the ReLive 17.2.1 chipset drivers from the links above.
(Step 2) Run the installer, but only at the location where it extracts the files, and the Radeon screen appears:
When this happens, navigate to where the drivers were extracted, usually C: AMD. Make a copy of this directory wherever you are and exit the installer. The installer usually removes the original copy and you can put it back in C:AMD.
(Step 3) Go to Radeon-Crimson-ReLive-17.2.1… directory and you will see this:
Now right click and go to New -> Text Document:
Select this , hit enter to accept the default name, and open the file. You should see an empty notepad. In this case, add the following:
Setup.exe -install
Save this file as ‘setup.bat’ in the same directory. In the installation folder you should see the following:
If the setup file has the same icon as the new text document, the «.bat» part of the filename does not work. You will have to go through Tools -> Options and enable «Filename Extensions» to see the full filename and rename it that way to setup.bat (right click the file, select rename).
(Step 4) Now we need to create a shortcut to this batch file in the startup directory. From the Start menu, select All Programs, locate the startup folder, right-click, and select Open.
It should suggest an empty directory. Right click and select New -> New Shortcut and a popup menu will appear. Select «Browse» and navigate to the batch file (in this example, c:AMMRadeon-Crimson…).
Select OK, select Next, and select Finish. The catalog should show the following:
(Step 5) Shut down the system and transfer the SSD to the Ryzen system. Turn it on and wait a few minutes after the system boots to install the drivers. At some point, mouse and keyboard control will occur.
TL flow diagram; DR
For some of our readers who know how to extract files and create shortcuts, this flowchart might be easier: having USB is a problem. However, due to our limitations in testing Ryzen, we have so far tested this method by installing Win7 x64 Professional on a Crosshair VI Hero. Other methods may work better as the platform evolves. However, it should be noted that AMD does not officially support Ryzen and the AM4 platform on Windows 7.
Any users with other methods, or success/failure stories, please post below.
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