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Summary
AMD started AMD Phenom X4 9850 BE sales on March 2008. Based on an Agena architecture, this desktop processor is primarily aimed at home systems. It has 4 cores and 4 threads, and is based on 65 nm manufacturing technology, with a max turbo frequency of 2500 MHz and an unlocked multiplier.
Compatibility-wise, this is AMD Socket AM2+ processor with a TDP of 125 Watt.
We have no data on Phenom X4 9850 BE benchmark results.
General info
Phenom X4 9850 BE processor market type (desktop or notebook), architecture, sales start time and pricing.
| Place in performance rating | not rated | |
| Market segment | Desktop processor | |
| Architecture codename | Agena (2007−2008) | |
| Release date | March 2008 (14 years old) |
Technical specs
Basic microprocessor parameters such as number of cores, number of threads, base frequency and turbo boost clock, lithography, cache size and multiplier lock state. These parameters can generally indicate CPU performance, but to be more precise you have to review its test results.
| Physical cores | 4 (Quad-Core) | |
| Threads | 4 | |
| Boost clock speed | 2.5 GHz | of 6 (Core i9-13900KS) |
| L1 cache | 128 KB (per core) | of 7475. 2 (Apple M2 Pro 10-Core) |
| L2 cache | 512 KB (per core) | of 36864 (Apple M2 Max) |
| L3 cache | 2 MB (shared) | of 768 (EPYC 7373X) |
| Chip lithography | 65 nm | of 4 (Ryzen 9 7940HS) |
| Die size | 285 mm2 | |
| Number of transistors | 450 million | of 9900000 (Ryzen 5 7645HX) |
| 64 bit support | + | |
| Windows 11 compatibility | — | |
| Unlocked multiplier | + |
Compatibility
Information on Phenom X4 9850 BE compatibility with other computer components and devices: motherboard (look for socket type), power supply unit (look for power consumption) etc. Useful when planning a future computer configuration or upgrading an existing one.
Note that power consumption of some processors can well exceed their nominal TDP, even without overclocking. Some can even double their declared thermals given that the motherboard allows to tune the CPU power parameters.
| Number of CPUs in a configuration | 1 | of 8 (Opteron 842) |
| Socket | AM2+ | |
| Thermal design power (TDP) | 125 Watt | of 400 (Xeon Platinum 9282) |
Virtualization technologies
Supported virtual machine optimization technologies. Some are specific to Intel only, some to AMD.
| AMD-V | + |
Benchmark performance
Single-core and multi-core benchmark results of Phenom X4 9850 BE. Overall benchmark performance is measured in points in 0-100 range, higher is better.
We have no data on Phenom X4 9850 BE benchmark results.
Recommended GPUs
People consider these graphics cards to be good for Phenom X4 9850 BE, according to our PC configuration statistics.
GeForce GTX
650
10.3%
Radeon HD
6770
6.9%
GeForce GTX
750 Ti
6.9%
GeForce GTS
250
6.9%
Radeon HD
6670
6.9%
Radeon HD
5670
6.9%
GeForce GT
710
3.
4%
GeForce GTX
560 Ti
3.4%
GeForce
210
3.4%
GeForce GT
520
3.4%
These are the fastest graphics cards for Phenom X4 9850 BE in our user configuration statistics.
There is a total of 29 configurations based on Phenom X4 9850 BE in our database.
GeForce GTX
1050 Ti
3.4% (1/29)
Radeon RX
460
3.4% (1/29)
GeForce GTX
750 Ti
6.
9% (2/29)
Radeon R7
360
3.4% (1/29)
GeForce GTX
560 Ti
3.4% (1/29)
Radeon RX
550
3.4% (1/29)
GeForce GTX
650
10.3% (3/29)
Radeon HD
5770
3.4% (1/29)
Radeon HD
6770
6.9% (2/29)
GeForce GT
640
3.
4% (1/29)
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AMD Phenom X4 9850 Processor Review — B3 Stepping
By Nathan Kirsch •
Finally A Phenom Processor That Runs Right
When the AMD Phenom series of processors launched back on November 19th, 2007 no one could have expected just how rough things were about to get for AMD. First, they sent out Phenom 9900 processors to the press that were was unable to keep up with the Intel Core 2 series of processors.
Second, the Phenom 9700/9800/9900 processors that AMD sent out to the media were pulled at the last second and replaced with the lower clocked Phenom 9600 (2.3GHz) and Phenom 9500 (2.2GHz). Then after the Phenom series was lauched it got caught up in the TLB erratum 298 controversy and found itself plauged by benchmark problems. On top of all this AMD kept telling the media, who in turn told consumers, that everything was fine and AMD was on track to deliver the Phenom 9700 and 9800 later in Q1 with a new 3GHz model in Q2 of 2008.
AMD is committed to bring quad-core to the desktop market in Q4, and we are meeting that commitment with the launch of AMD Phenom quad-core processors 9500 and 9600 (2.2GHz and 2.3GHz) on Nov. 19th. AMD is going to initially introduce these two mainstream AMD Phenom quad-core processor models in order to satisfy customer demand in 2007. Since the October meeting, AMD has decided to launch our AMD Phenom 9700 (2.4GHz) quad core product in Q1 2008, along with our AMD Phenom 9900 (2.
6 GHz) quad core processor. The launch of these two higher performance processors models will coincide with the introduction of related, significant performance enhancements in the platform; namely CrossFireX and our new enthusiast graphics product. Higher performance AMD Phenom processors will follow the introduction of the AMD Phenom 9700 and 9900 models, with a 3.0 GHz model in Q2 2008. AMD has a great history of delivering faster parts through a products lifecycle, and we are confident that this will remain true. – AMD PR 11/14/2007
The past four months could not have gone by fast enough for Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), but there does seem to be a new hope for Phenom as the latest revision of the core (stepping B3) fixes the TLB erratum along with many other erratums that were on the list. The TLB fix is now done at the silicon level, so the performance hit users were seeing with the BIOS workaround should be gone. AMD has now stopped production on the older core steppings as a result of this change.
If you see a Phenom 9500 or Phenom 9600 in a system or for sale at a retailer you know that the procesor is a B1 or B2 stepping that has the TLB issue. All of the new Phenom B3 steppings will be named with the nomenclature of what AMD is calling the ’50 series’ of processors. The four new AMD Phenom X4 processors that AMD is announcing today are the 9550 (2.2GHz), 9650 (2.3GHz), 9750 (2.4GHz) and 9850 Black Edition (2.5GHz). AMD has told us to expect the new 50-series processors to perform the same, clock-for-clock as older revision (B2) processors operating in a platform that is not implementing the TLB erratum fix. For example, the 2.2GHz Phenom 9550 processor will replace the Phenom 9500 (B2) processor. AMD is basically ‘fixing’ Phenom and is making the model numbers clear to make sure consumers know what processors they are getting without having to open the retail box.
Not only is performance the same clock-for-clock, but so is pricing as it should be.
AMD has an interesting pricing table on their site that can be seen above. It seems that AMD is having a price cut on April 7th, 2008 and the Phenom 9850 will end up costing less than what a Phenom 9600 costs today. Enough chat about the details! Let’s take a look at the latest and greatest processor from AMD.
Our Phenom 9600 Black Edition on the left has been the fastest Phenom X4 processor that money could buy for a number of months now, but it is being replaced by the Phenom X4 9850 Black Edition processor that is seen above on the right. What is shocking is the fact that our Phenom X4 9850 Black Edition has a production date code of the tenth week of 2008. It is obvious that AMD was in a hurry to get these in our hand just days after these rolled off the production line.
The AMD Phenom X4 9850 that we will be benchmarking today is a 2.5GHz processor manufactured using AMD’s 65nm Silicon on Insulator process technology. The chip has a Max TDP of 125W and it is a ‘Black Edition’, which means its multiplier is unlocked for better overclocking.
Since the bus speed can’t be raised that high on Phenom processors the best way to overclock is by increasing the multipler and the Black Edition was designed just for that. The one feature that is new and exclusive to just the AMD Phenom X4 9850 processor is a 2.0GHz memory controller. All of the other new and old Phenoms had a memory controller clocked in at 1.8GHz, so this is a slight improvement. In case you are wondering there will not be a non-black edition Phenom X4 9850 at launch nor would we guess that AMD is planning on launching one.
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Speed in games
Phenom II X4 830
44.
3 (+13%)
Phenom 9850
39.2
Production and Subjects, according .
The performance of 4 cores, if any, and performance per core has the greatest impact on the result, since most games do not fully use more than 4 cores.
The speed of caches and working with RAM is also important.
Speed in office use
Phenom II X4 830
46.4 (+15%)
Phenom 9850
40.4
Performance in everyday work such as browsers and office programs.
The performance of 1 core has the greatest impact on the result, since most of these applications use only one, ignoring the rest.
Similarly, many professional applications such as various CADs ignore multi-threaded performance.
Speed in heavy applications
Phenom II X4 830
22.9 (+12%)
Phenom 9850
20.4
The performance of all cores and their number have the greatest impact on the result, since most of these applications willingly use all the cores and increase the speed accordingly.
At the same time, certain periods of work can be demanding on the performance of one or two cores, for example, applying filters in the editor.
Data obtained from tests by users who tested their systems with and without overclocking. Thus, you see the average values corresponding to the processor.
Speed of numerical operations
Simple household tasks |
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Phenom II X4 830 33.6 (+14%) Phenom 9850 29.4 |
Demanding games and tasks |
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Phenom II X4 830 14.5 (+16%) Phenom 9850 12.5 |
Extreme |
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Phenom II X4 830 2. Phenom 9850 2.5 |
9 (+16%) Different tasks require different CPU strengths. A system with few fast cores and low memory latency will be fine for the vast majority of games, but will be inferior to a system with a lot of slow cores in a rendering scenario.
We believe that a minimum of 4/4 (4 physical cores and 4 threads) processor is suitable for a budget gaming PC. At the same time, some games can load it at 100%, slow down and freeze, and performing any tasks in the background will lead to a drop in FPS.
The budget shopper should ideally aim for a minimum of 4/8 and 6/6. A gamer with a big budget can choose between 6/12, 8/8 and 8/16. Processors with 10 and 12 cores can perform well in games with high frequency and fast memory, but are overkill for such tasks. Also, buying for the future is a dubious undertaking, since in a few years many slow cores may not provide sufficient gaming performance.
When choosing a processor for your work, consider how many cores your programs use. For example, photo and video editors can use 1-2 cores when working with filtering, and rendering or converting in the same editors already uses all threads.
Data obtained from tests by users who tested their systems both with overclocking (maximum value in the table) and without (minimum). A typical result is shown in the middle, the more filled in the color bar, the better the average result among all tested systems.
Features
Main
| Socket Installed in motherboards with a suitable socket. Note that a socket is not guaranteed to be compatible. The manufacturer may not add support to the BIOS. | AM3 | |
| Manufacturer Firm | AMD | AMD |
Performance
Cores The total number of physical cores. |
4 | 4 |
| Threads The number of threads. The number of logical processor cores that the operating system sees. | 4 | 4 |
| Multi-Threading Technology With Intel’s Hyper-threading and AMD’s SMT technology, one physical core is recognized as two logical cores in the operating system, thereby increasing processor performance in multi-threaded applications. | Missing | Missing |
Base frequencyGuaranteed frequency of all cores (P-cores in case of corresponding architecture) of the processor at maximum load. It is important to remember that speed and frequency are not directly related. For example, a new processor at a lower frequency may be faster than an old one at a higher one. |
2.8 GHz | 2.5 GHz |
Cache and RAM
Video core
PCI
Details
Which is better
AMD Phenom II X4 830
- On average, gaming performance is 13% better.
- The speed of work in office applications and browsers is increased by 16%.
- In complex multi-threaded applications, faster and outperforms by 16%.
- The base frequency is 0.3 GHz higher.
How are they similar
- The number of physical cores is the same.
- The number of threads is equal.
- 800MHz higher RAM speed?
2133MHz vs 1333MHz - Semiconductor size 17nm smaller?
28nm vs 45nm - 30W below TDP?
95W vs 125W - 2MB more L2 cache?
4MB vs 2MB - 1 newer PCI Express (PCIe) version?
3 vs 2 - 0.
5MB/core more L2 cache per core? 9more memory bandwidth?
34.1GB/s vs 21.3GB/s
4 x 4GHz vs 4 x 3.4GHz
- 17.52% higher PassMark score?
4306 vs 3664 - 320KB more L1 cache?
512KB vs 192KB
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PRODUCTION
The speed of the central processor
4 x 4GHZ
900 4 x 3.4ghz
CEOCED OF THE CONC processor, considering all its cores (processors). It is calculated by adding the clock speeds of each core or, in the case of multi-core processors, each group of cores.
processor thread
More threads result in better performance and better multitasking.
turbo clock speed
4.2GHz
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
When the processor is running below its limits, it can jump to a higher clock speed to increase performance.
Has an unlocked multiplier of
✔AMD Athlon X4 880K
✔AMD Phenom II X4 965
Some processors come with an unlocked multiplier and are easier to overclock, allowing for better performance in games and other applications.
L2 cache
More L2 scratchpad memory results in faster results in CPU and system performance tuning.
L3 cache
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Athlon X4 880K)
More L3 scratchpad results in faster results in CPU and system performance tuning.
L1 cache
More L1 cache results in faster results in CPU and system performance tuning.
L2 core
1MB/core
0.5MB/core
More data can be stored in L2 scratchpad for access by each processor core.
L3 core
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Athlon X4 880K)
1.5MB/core
More data can be stored in L3 scratchpad for access by each processor core.
Geotagging
PassMark result
This benchmark measures CPU performance using multithreading.
PassMark result (single)
This benchmark measures processor performance using a thread of execution.
Cinebench R20 result (multi-core)
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Athlon X4 880K)
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
Cinebench R20 is a benchmark that measures multi-core processor performance by rendering a 3D scene.
Cinebench R20 result (single core)
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Athlon X4 880K)
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
Cinebench R20 is a test to evaluate the performance of a single core processor when rendering a 3D scene.
Geekbench 5 result (multi-core)
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
Geekbench 5 is a cross-platform benchmark that measures multi-core processor performance.
(Source: Primate Labs, 2023)
Geekbench 5 result (single core)
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
Geekbench 5 is a cross-platform benchmark that measures the single-core performance of a processor. (Source: Primate Labs, 2023)
Blender test result (bmw27)
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Athlon X4 880K)
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
The Blender benchmark (bmw27) measures CPU performance by rendering a 3D scene. More powerful processors can render a scene in a shorter time.
Blender (classroom) result
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Athlon X4 880K)
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
The Blender (classroom) benchmark measures CPU performance by rendering a 3D scene. More powerful processors can render a scene in a shorter time.
performance per watt
Unknown.
Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
This means that the processor is more efficient, giving more performance per watt of power used.
Integrated graphics
GPU clock speed
∅
N/A
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
The graphics processing unit (GPU) has a higher clock speed.
Turbo GPU
∅
Not applicable
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
When the GPU is running below its limits, it can jump to a higher clock speed to increase performance.
GPU actuators
∅
Not applicable
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
A graphics processing unit (GPU) with more execution units can provide better graphics.
monitor support
∅
Not applicable
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
By using multiple displays, you can expand your workspace, making it easier to work across multiple applications.
DirectX version
∅
Not applicable
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
DirectX is used in games with a new version that supports better graphics.
OpenGL version
∅
Not applicable
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
The newer version of OpenGL, the better graphics quality in games.
OpenCL version
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Athlon X4 880K)
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
Some applications use OpenCL to take advantage of the power of the graphics processing unit (GPU) for non-graphical computing.
Newer versions are more functional and better quality.
textured units (TMUs)
∅
Not applicable
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
TMUs take texture units and map them to the geometric layout of the 3D scene. More TMUs generally means texture information is processed faster.
ROPs Imaging Units
∅
N/A
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
ROPs are responsible for some of the final steps of the rendering process, such as writing the final pixel data to memory and for performing other tasks such as anti-aliasing to improve the appearance of graphics.
Memory
RAM speed
2133MHz
1333MHz
Can support faster memory which speeds up system performance.
maximum memory bandwidth
34.
1GB/s
21.3GB/s
This is the maximum rate at which data can be read from or stored in memory.
DDR memory version
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Athlon X4 880K)
DDR (Double Data Rate Synchronous Dynamic Random Access Memory) is the most common type of main memory. New versions of DDR memory support higher maximum speeds and are more energy efficient.
memory channels
More memory channels increase the speed of data transfer between memory and processor.
maximum memory
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Athlon X4 880K)
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
Maximum amount of memory (RAM).
bus baud rate
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Athlon X4 880K)
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
The bus is responsible for transferring data between various components of a computer or device.
Supports memory debug code
✖AMD Athlon X4 880K
✖AMD Phenom II X4 965
Memory debug code can detect and repair data corruption. It is used when necessary to avoid distortion, such as in scientific computing or when starting a server.
eMMC version
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Athlon X4 880K)
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
A newer version of eMMC — built-in flash memory card — speeds up the memory interface, has a positive effect on device performance, for example, when transferring files from a computer to internal memory via USB.
bus frequency
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Athlon X4 880K)
Unknown. Help us offer a price. (AMD Phenom II X4 965)
The bus is responsible for transferring data between various components of a computer or device
Intel’s Hyperthreading or AMD’s Simultaneous Multithreading provides better performance by dividing each physical processor core into logical cores, also known as threads.
Thus, each core can run two instruction streams at the same time.
Has AES
✔AMD Athlon X4 880K
✖AMD Phenom II X4 965
AES is used to speed up encryption and decryption.
Has AVX
✔AMD Athlon X4 880K
✖AMD Phenom II X4 965
AVX is used to help speed up calculations in multimedia, scientific and financial applications, and to improve the performance of the Linux RAID program.
SSE version
SSE is used to speed up multimedia tasks such as editing images or adjusting audio volume. Each new version contains new instructions and improvements.
Has F16C
✔AMD Athlon X4 880K
✖AMD Phenom II X4 965
F16C is used to speed up tasks such as adjusting image contrast or adjusting volume.
bits transmitted at the same time
Unknown.