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Intel Core i7-4790K, 4820K, 4960X, 5820K and 5960X processors

Many cores beyond four: pros and cons

Intel has been criticized for the last five to seven years for, they say, remaining on the market with virtually no competitors , she began to slow down progress — the people, they say, are hungry for cheap multi-core processors, but they are not. But the “useless” graphics core is constantly being improved and increased in size, so that it already occupies more than half of the processor — that would be just the cores instead. It is clear that such an approach is greatly simplified and skewed towards the primitive little world of the so-called. «computer enthusiasts» (fortunately, other users do not express their opinions especially, perceiving the computer as a completely ordinary household appliance), where discrete video cards ply the Bolshoi Theater , and performance is an independent fetish, for which there is a willingness to pay quite specific money.

The mass market has long lived according to completely different laws, the main of which are price, simplicity and compactness (fortunately, portable computers have long ceased to be toys, and traditional modular desktops have turned into a niche product). Therefore, integrated video is obviously better than discrete video in all cases when it does its job, and if you can buy a processor with video for $100, then this is much better than paying $75 for a processor and the same for a video card. At the same time, it is also important that most of the processors sold as part of finished devices are dual-core — buyers do not consider it necessary to pay extra even for four cores, since they are not so useful in mass software — and then why do they need six or eight?

However, it cannot be said that Intel does not take into account the needs of particularly demanding users at all. Moreover, it doesn’t cost her much — in the server market, increasing the number of cores is quite justified, so we have already reached 18. True, at prices that are unlikely to be liked by a private person 🙂 But the latter have something to offer. In the end, six years ago, the choice of the number of cores was not particularly a question at all: the first dual-core processors appeared in mid-2005, and quad-core ones at the end of 2006, and progress stopped there for three years. The first six-core processor was introduced in early 2010, and in mid-2011, the first six-core models with non-extreme prices appeared. This state of affairs stabilized … for the same three years, which is typical: at the end of the past, the processor acquired eight cores «for stukubaks», and six — once again fell in price by another one and a half times. Where are the claims? It’s just that quad-core models used to get cheaper a little faster 🙂 The non-extreme Core 2 Quad came out a quarter after the extreme one — and it took two quarters for the six-core Core i7 models. A few months later, the cheapest Core 2 Quad began to sell for less than $300 — and the six-core Core i7 is still ahead, because they have so far «sunk» only to $400. So this is where it really slows down. But, we repeat, most buyers still do not see the point even in four cores, and indeed: if by “many” we mean at least “two”, then the history of multi-core in terms of duration is less than a third of the entire history of x86 🙂

In general, such a precarious balance. However, processors are being released and their prices are dropping. Accordingly, it makes sense to evaluate how much the cost of acquiring «High End Desktop Processors» (as the group of devices for both versions of LGA2011 is officially called) can be justified compared to buying a top solution for a mass platform. What are we going to do today.

Test stand configuration

9001 8 4/ 8

9001 8 6×256

Processor Intel Core i7-4790K Intel Core i7-4820K Intel Core i7-4960X Intel Core i7-5820K Intel Core i7-5960X
Core name 9001 9

Haswell Ivy Bridge-E Ivy Bridge-E Haswell-E Haswell-E
Technology 22 nm 22 nm 22 nm 2 2 nm 22 nm
Core frequency, GHz 4, 0/4.4 3.7/3.9 3.6/4.0 3.3/3.6 3.0/3.5
Cores/Threads 4/8 6/12 6/12 8/16
L1 cache (total), I/D, KB 1 28/128 128/128 192 /192 192/192 256/256
L2 cache, KB 4×256 4×256 6×256 8×256
L3 cache, MiB 8 10 15 15 20
RAM 2×DDR3-1600 4×DDR3-1866 4×DDR3-1866 4×DDR4-2133 4×DDR4-2133
TDP, W 88 130 130 140 140
Price T-10820114 T- 10531106 T-10531094 T-11008379 T-11008382

There will be five processors today: an older model for LGA1150 and a pair of older/younger ones for LGA2011 and LGA2011-3. If you approach the issue differently, then there are two quad-core processors, two six-core ones, and another eight-core processor. The «budget» solution for LGA2011 represented by 4820K, by the way, is formally even cheaper than 4790K, but in practice it can cost more — you will have to buy a video card for it. However, if you plan to buy it anyway, then this solution has not only disadvantages (lower frequency, older architecture), but also advantages (more PCIe lanes, the ability to use more memory without problems), which is why we decided to add it to the comparison .

Although the most interesting pair we have today will be 5820K and 4960X: both are six-core, but the first one is more modern and much cheaper. True, the clock frequencies are low, but the platform makes it easy to «correct» this injustice 🙂 And we need the 5960X both for comparison with its predecessor on the throne, and by itself: after all, this is formally the most powerful solution in the Intel range.

As for other test conditions, they were equal, but not the same: the frequency of the RAM was the maximum supported by the specifications, and its capacity of 4 GB per channel, of course, puts 4790K in initially less convenient conditions, since in the end he got a total of only 8 GB, and not 16, like the rest of the subjects. However, we considered this to be more correct than trying to equalize volumes — after all, many people purchase solutions based on LGA2011 just to install more memory. But the system drive (Toshiba THNSNh356GMCT with a capacity of 256 GB) and the video card (based on the Radeon R7 260X) were the same for all subjects.

Test methodology

To evaluate performance, we used our performance measurement methodology using iXBT Application Benchmark 2015 and iXBT Game Benchmark 2015. We normalized all test results in the first benchmark against the results of the reference system, which this year will be the same for laptops , and for all other computers, which is designed to make it easier for readers to compare and choose:

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Processor Intel Core i5-3317U
Chipset Intel HM77 Express
Memory 90 019

4 GB DDR3-1600 (Dual Channel)
Graphics Intel HD Graphics 4000
Drive SSD 128 GB Crucial M4-CT128M4SSD1
Operating system Windows 8 (64-bit)
Intel graphics driver version 9. 18.10.3186

iXBT Application Benchmark 2015

Perhaps the best chart to show the benefits of multithreading, since these applications use as many processor cores as they can find. As a result, it overtook the convincing victory of 5960X — 4790K by one and a half times. True, it costs three times more, but this is a common thing: the dependence of price and performance is far from linear. Both six-cores are between them, and are approximately equal — given the different prices, this is very important. 4820K is a clear outsider — it has all the parameters worse than 4790K 🙂

What is called — arrived. How can this be? We recall the features of a multi-threaded test in Adobe After Effects CC 2014.1.1: for its normal operation, it is recommended to have at least 2 GB for each calculation thread — otherwise the test may “fall out” into single-threaded mode and start working even slower than without using the technology Multiprocessing (as Adobe calls it). Sometimes, as we have already found out, even 1 GB per stream is enough (i.e. 8 GB for Core i7), but not when using a discrete graphics card. But 16 GB is enough for 4820K (eight threads), but not enough for six-core processors … and like death for an eight-core Core i7-5960X. How it looks in practice — let’s see in detail in the table: 9

Intel Core i7-5960X Test #1 seconds 633 767 581 612 536 Test #2 seconds 627 337 827 950 1162

So, without the use of Multiprocessing, everything is logical and predictable: additional cores give a performance increase, but not much, since the degree of their utilization is rather low in this mode of this application. The inclusion of Multiprocessing more than doubles the 4820K, which has enough memory, but it has a catastrophic effect in other cases. The performance of the 4790K just turns out to be the same as without this technology, the six-core ones slow down by one and a half times, and the eight-core 5960X — generally in two. Regarding the «normal» mode — as we already know, when installing 32 GB of memory, the processor copes with this task in 268 seconds (and even then — if you look at the performance of 4820K, you can conclude that 5960X 32 GB is still not enough to fully use the mentioned technologies). And if there are only 16, it works four times slower in . Remarkably, the first test in Adobe After Effects CC 2014.1.1 with less memory runs opposite for 10 seconds is faster than . Conclusion? Stepping on the shaky ground of workstations and other highly specialized configurations, it should be remembered that not everything is so simple there. You won’t be full of cores alone — and the environment must be used appropriately. And the operating modes of the software used (when there is a choice) are consistent with the environment. Otherwise, instead of speeding up the work by half, you can get its slowdown. And when studying and comparing test results on different sites, you should start with studying the test methodology (those resources where it is described in insufficient detail should not be considered at all for obvious reasons :)) — otherwise there is a risk of comparing warm with soft.

Within the framework of extreme platforms — a beautiful ladder, which is greatly spoiled by the result of the Core i7-4790K: higher than everyone else. But we were quite ready for this from the very beginning — too many cores are not needed here, so the one with the best architecture and high clock speeds will win.

Beating overgrown babies 🙂 For a well-known reason — in fact, no one has remade the application since Core 2 Duo, so only two cores are needed, and the maximum frequency.

Audition is trying to use additional streams, but this can only compensate for the lag in other parameters, but nothing more.

But here it is the increase in the number of cores that is the determining factor. And (which is typical) 5820K and 4960X are approximately equal — for the second time already and again under conditions favorable for six-core processors.

Additional cores do a good job of compressing data, but for decompressing you need one maximum frequency — as a result, we get equality of tops for all three platforms and lagging behind them for younger processor models.

As we have already said, «in everyday life» of this type, one fast core is enough. Whoever has the fastest core is the fastest one. Who has the slower cores — that one is slower. And how many of those cores — it does not matter.

SSD is the same, platform controllers are approximately equal — general equality with a small spread.

Given all of the above, the average temperature in the hospital would seem to make even less sense than usual, but in general it is well shown that, in general, a spherical user in a vacuum LGA2011 in both incarnations is simply not needed.

Gaming applications

For obvious reasons, when using the Radeon R7 260X, we limit ourselves to the minimum quality mode (for maximum settings, this video card is not enough by itself), but in full Full HD resolution (with this, it, unlike many integrated solutions, does a great job). comments to the diagrams will be one for all.

The only result out of line is in Grid2. As you can see, the game engine not only supports multi-core processors — it can definitely use up to 16 computation threads with benefit. However, this makes no sense, since there is really no difference between 200 and 300 frames per second. Formally, there is, but in practice there is too much of the first meaning. And the lower the frame rate (primarily depending on the capabilities of the video card), the smaller the difference between the processors, even where it tries to appear: in Hitman, for example, many cores do not hurt at first glance, but if you look closely, this money is better for a more powerful video card spend, which will allow you to play not at the minimum settings. In general, a gamer should definitely limit himself to LGA1150, and not even Core i7 🙂

Total

First, as mentioned above, six to eight cores on the desktop are still not needed by the mass user. It does not follow from this that no one needs them, but you will still have to dance from tasks. And evaluate: will it pay off or not? Moreover, lowering prices for processors, generally speaking, will not change anything — the system will still be more expensive. Why? We remember the need for a video card. Yes, gamers still use discrete GPUs, but gamers, strictly speaking, don’t need a Core i7 at all. And if we consider professional use with the corresponding video card of the professional series, then the question of whether the processor costs $300 or $1000 may cease to matter at all — since such a video card is capable of pulling several thousand. Again, within the LGA1150 there is also a Xeon with graphics cores of the HDG P4600 series and higher, capable of competing just with budget professional cards, and the “budget” in this segment is specific: in short, it’s impossible to meet $50 🙂 And on other things It’s not worth saving the environment either: an example of Adobe After Effects CC 2014.1.1, for the adequate operation of all the functions of which a system with a six- or eight-core processor will have to be equipped with 32 GB of memory, has been analyzed in detail above. By the way, taking into account this factor, the Core i7-5820K ceases to look so attractive: for 32 GB DDR4 now you have to pay almost $ 600, and the same amount of DDR3 will cost less than 300, so it will be cheaper to buy the «outdated» Core i7-4930K for a «regular» LGA2011 😉

In general, as it was said, systems based on multi-core processors are an expensive pleasure these days, and they will remain expensive even if the prices for the processors themselves go down. But this is not so bad — the worse thing is that six to eight cores are simply not needed to solve most of the tasks facing the mass user. Strictly speaking, even four are not always needed, but there the prices for processors differ less, and the rest of the «infrastructure» is completely identical — in contrast to. Accordingly, quad-core processors are gradually turning into a mass product, at least in the segment of desktop computers (the majority of shipments on the mobile market do not yet fall on them), but further … Then there are objective difficulties, which we, in fact, were studying today. .

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    Intel Core i7-4790K vs Intel Core i7-5820K — comparative characteristics and benchmarks of processors

    VS

    Intel Core i7-4790K

    Intel Core i7-5820K

    Which one to choose?

    It’s time to choose the winner. What is the difference and which is better in comparison Intel Core i7-4790K vs Intel Core i7-5820K? Which processor is more powerful and faster? It is quite simple to determine — look at the comparative table of all characteristics. A processor with more cores/threads, as well as a higher frequency and large L2-L3 is the absolute winner!

    Cores, base and turbo frequency of the processor

    Who will win in the comparison of Intel Core i7-4790K and Intel Core i7-5820K. The overall performance of a processor can be easily determined based on the number of cores, threads, base and turbo clock speed + L2-L3 volume. The more cores, L3, and clock speed, the more efficient the processor. Please note that high specifications require the use of a powerful cooling system.

    4.00 GHz

    Clock speed

    3.30 GHz

    4

    Number of cores

    6

    4.40 GHz

    9 0004 Turbo (1 core)

    3.60 GHz

    8

    Threads

    12

    Yes

    Hyper Trading

    Yes

    Yes

    Overclocking

    Yes

    4. 20 GHz

    Turbo (4 Cores)

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    no data

    Turbo (6 cores)

    3.40 GHz

    Processor family and generation

    Internal graphics

    It’s hard to compare an Intel Core i7-4790K vs an Intel Core i7-5820K when graphics card function and specs matter only in laptops. In workstations, this is not an advantage, due to the installation of an additional graphics accelerator.

    Intel HD Graphics 4600

    GPU name

    0.35 GHz

    GPU frequency

    1.25 GHz

    GPU (Turbo)

    No turbo

    7.5

    Generation

    11.1

    DirectX Version

    20

    Execution Units

    160

    Number of Shaders

    2 GB

    Maximum Memory

    3

    Number of monitors

    22 nm

    Technology

    Q2/2013

    Release date

    Hardware codec support

    Here we are dealing with specifications that are used by some processor manufacturers. These figures are mostly technical and can be disregarded for comparative purposes.

    Decode / Encode

    h364

    No

    Decode

    JPEG

    No

    No

    h365 8bit 900 03

    No

    No

    h365 10bit

    No

    No

    VP8

    No

    No.

    VP9

    No.

    Decode

    VC-1

    No.

    RAM and PCIe

    These are the memory standards supported by processors. The processor can support multi-channel RAM with a high clock speed, this directly affects its speed and performance.

    DDR3-1600

    Memory type

    DDR4-2133

    32 GB

    Maximum memory

    64 GB

    2

    Memory channels

    4

    No

    ECC

    No

    3.0

    PCIe version

    3.0

    16

    PCIe lanes

    28

    Encryption

    Data Encryption Support

    Yes

    AES-NI

    Yes

    Memory & AMP; PCIe

    Thermal management and TDP

    Today’s systems are loaded with demanding games and work applications, which consequently unleash the full potential of the processor. When choosing between Intel Core i7-4790K and Intel Core i7-5820K, it is better to choose the option with less heat dissipation (TDP).

    88 W

    TDP

    140 W

    Max Temperature

    Max TDP

    TDP down

    Technical details

    8.00 MB

    L3-Cache

    15.00 MB

    22 nm

    Technology 9000 3

    22 nm

    Haswell Devils Canyon

    Architecture

    Haswell-E

    VT- x, VT-x EPT, VT-d

    Virtualization

    VT-x, VT-x EPT, VT-d

    LGA 1150

    Socket (connector)

    LGA 2011-3

    Q2/2014

    Release date

    Q3/2014

    ca. 310 $

    Price

    ca. 499 $

    Devices compatible with this processor

    You probably already know which devices use processors. It can be a desktop computer or a laptop.

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    Cinebench R11. 5, 64bit (Single-Core)

    This synthetic benchmark will help you determine the actual processing power of a single CPU core. Cinebench R11.5 is based on MAXON CINEMA 4D and uses 9 different test scenarios0003

    Intel Core i7-4790K
    4x 4.00 GHz (4.40 GHz) HT

    197 (100%)

    Intel Core i7-5820K
    6x 3.30 GHz (3.60 GHz) HT

    173 (87%)

    Cinebench R11.5, 64bit (Multi-Core)

    Cinebench R11.5 performs simultaneous cross-platform tests on all processor cores. Running realistic 3D scenes, this benchmark will unleash the full potential of your single core Intel or AMD

    processor
    Intel Core i7-4790K
    4x 4. 00 GHz (4.40 GHz) HT

    967 (87%)

    Intel Core i7-5820K
    6x 3.30 GHz (3.60 GHz) HT

    1105 (100%)

    Cinebench R11.5, 64bit (iGPU, OpenGL)

    Cinebench 11.5 is based on Cinema 4D Suite, a popular software for creating shapes and other things in 3D. The iGPU test uses the processor’s internal graphics unit to execute OpenGL commands.

    Intel Core i7-4790K
    4x 4.00 GHz (4.40 GHz) HT

    334 (100%)

    Intel Core i7-5820K
    6x 3. 30 GHz (3.60 GHz) HT

    Cinebench R15 (Single Core)

    The latter is used to create 3D models and shapes. Cinebench R15 is used to benchmark the performance of single core processors. Hyperthreading capability is not taken into account. It is an updated version of Cinebench 11.5. Like all new versions, the updated benchmark is based on Cinema 4 Suite software

    Intel Core i7-4790K
    4x 4.00 GHz (4.40 GHz) HT

    169 (100%)

    Intel Core i7-5820K
    6x 3.30 GHz (3.60 GHz) HT

    139 (82%)

    Cinebench R15 (Multi-Core)

    Cinebench R15 can be used to test the performance of multi-core processors. The test produces accurate and reliable results. This benchmark is an updated version of Cinebench 11.5, which is based on Cinema 4 Suite soft.

    Intel Core i7-4790K
    4x 4.00 GHz (4.40 GHz) HT

    854 (78%)

    Intel Core i7-5820K
    6x 3.30 GHz (3.60 GHz) HT

    1085 (100%)

    Cinebench R20 (Single-Core)

    Cinebench R20 is based on Cinema 4 Suite. This is software used to create 3D shapes. The benchmark runs in single-core mode without considering the possibility of hyper-threading.

    Intel Core i7-4790K
    4x 4. 00 GHz (4.40 GHz) HT

    411 (100%)

    Intel Core i7-5820K
    6x 3.30 GHz (3.60 GHz) HT

    329 (80%)

    Cinebench R20 (Multi-Core)

    This is a new version of the benchmark based on Cinebench R15 (both versions are based on Cinema 4, the most popular 3D modeling software). Cinebench R20 is used for benchmark tests of multi-core processor performance and hyper-threading capabilities.

    Intel Core i7-4790K
    4x 4.00 GHz (4.40 GHz) HT

    1982 (86%)

    Intel Core i7-5820K
    6x 3. 30 GHz (3.60 GHz) HT

    2301 (100%)

    Geekbench 3, 64bit (Single-Core)

    Geekbench 3 is a benchmark for 64-bit Intel and AMD processors. It uses a new power rating system for a single processor core. This software simulates real scenarios for accurate results

    Intel Core i7-4790K
    4x 4.00 GHz (4.40 GHz) HT

    4302 (100%)

    Intel Core i7-5820K
    6x 3.30 GHz (3.60 GHz) HT

    3740 (86%)

    Geekbench 3, 64bit (Multi-Core)

    Geekbench 3 supports multi-core AMD and Intel processors. Based on MAXON CINEMA 4D, it allows you to get the real comparative potential of the processor

    Intel Core i7-4790K
    4x 4. 00 GHz (4.40 GHz) HT

    16686 (72%)

    Intel Core i7-5820K
    6x 3.30 GHz (3.60 GHz) HT

    23052 (100%)

    Geekbench 5, 64bit (Single-Core)

    Geekbench 5 is the latest software. Completely new algorithms provide fairly accurate test results for single-core processors.

    Intel Core i7-4790K
    4x 4.00 GHz (4.40 GHz) HT

    1073 (100%)

    Intel Core i7-5820K
    6x 3.30 GHz (3.60 GHz) HT

    923 (86%)

    Geekbench 5, 64bit (Multi-Core)

    Geekbench 5 benchmark results for memory performance and multi-core processor speed. This takes into account the ability to hyperthreading.

    Intel Core i7-4790K
    4x 4.00 GHz (4.40 GHz) HT

    4001 (72%)

    Intel Core i7-5820K
    6x 3.30 GHz (3.60 GHz) HT

    5537 (100%)

    Blender 2.81 (bmw27)

    We use the Blender benchmark to monitor CPU performance. Test results show how fast the device performs when performing multi-processor tasks

    Intel Core i7-4790K
    4x 4.00 GHz (4.40 GHz) HT

    4070 (100%)

    Intel Core i7-5820K
    6x 3. 30 GHz (3.60 GHz) HT

    3317 (81%)

    Estimated results for PassMark CPU Mark

    It tests all and general CPU performance (math calculations, compression and decompression speed, 2D&3D graphics tests). Please note that data may differ from actual situations.

    Intel Core i7-4790K
    4x 4.00 GHz (4.40 GHz) HT

    11445 (87%)

    Intel Core i7-5820K
    6x 3.30 GHz (3.60 GHz) HT

    13014 (100%)

    iGPU — FP32 Performance (Single-precision GFLOPS)

    This test measures the performance of integrated graphics on Intel and AMD processors. The result is the calculated processing power in Single-Precision mode FP32

    Intel Core i7-4790K
    4x 4.00 GHz (4.40 GHz) HT

    400 (100%)

    Intel Core i7-5820K
    6x 3.30 GHz (3.60 GHz) HT

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